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Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism
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Sun, 21 Jan 2001 16:37:54 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
> David Eaton wrote:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> > > You are confusing an overwhelming body of evidence that reduces the
> > > probablity of inaccuracy to virtually nothing with "faith".
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> > Not in the least. You're taking people's word for it. "That's a picture of
> > the earth from a satellite. Here's Brazil." Proof? Only if you *believe* the
> > person.
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> You can log in on a website and access sat photos. Ones detailed enough to
> identify your own car in a parking lot. Those satellites can then pick out
> cars in Brazil. If you have the infinite time, you can step your way from
> wherever you live to Brazil in overlapping pics. Proof enough for ME.
Aha! EXACTLY the point. "Proof enough for YOU" != "Proof". Right? Becuase if
I say God exists because I've had "Proof enough for ME", you'd argue that I
was wrong, I assume. But back to Brazil-- You'd probably concede (I hope)
that if there were some big conspiracy against you trying to get you to
believe that Brazil existed, that *maybe*, in fact, it does NOT exist. But
you've got faith in your ability to judge the existence of such a
conspiracy. The more and more you see evidence of Brazil, the less inclined
you are to think that Brazil doesn't exist. And hence, at some point, you're
taking Brazil's existence on *faith*.
The point I'm pretty sure you're trying to avoid getting me to talk you
into, though, is that science==faith, religion==faith, and therefore
science==religion, yes? Well, I'm not about to say that exactly. I'll say
there ARE distinctions between Christianity and 'Science' (note the
difference between scientific METHOD and science itself), but this portion
of the thread hasn't touched on what I think those distinctions are. Other
parts of this thread have gone into that, though, if you'd like to check
them out...
DaveE
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| (...) That IS exactly what you are trying to say. You are welcome to correct me, but then explain what you are trying to do, since your initial point was that science is based on faith (at some point) and religion is based on faith, so they aren't (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) You can log in on a website and access sat photos. Ones detailed enough to identify your own car in a parking lot. Those satellites can then pick out cars in Brazil. If you have the infinite time, you can step your way from wherever you live (...) (24 years ago, 19-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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