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Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism
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Date: 
Sun, 21 Jan 2001 14:34:04 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jon Kozan writes:
> > Perhaps it would be helpful to break apart the different things that are
> > ascribed to the term "evolution."
> > 
> > Common usage of the word "evolution" is the idea that living things in our
> > world have come into being through unguided naturalistic processes
> > starting from a primeval mass of subatomic particles and radiation, over
> > approximately 20 billion years.
> > 
> > A more precise understanding of the above statement divides the "atoms to
> > people" transition into four realms:
> > 
> >    1.Cosmology is the branch of astronomy which deals with the origin and
> > formation of the general structure of the universe.
> >    2.Abiogenesis refers to first life - the production of living organisms
> > from inanimate matter.
> >    3.Micro-evolution or speciation refers to populational and species
> > change
> > through time. There are many published examples of speciation, if by the
> > development of a new "species" we mean the development of a new population
> > of
> > individuals which will not breed with the original population to produce
> > fertile offspring. Micro-evolution is a scientific fact which no one,
> > including creationists, dispute.
> 
> >    4.Macro-evolution or general evolution refers the progression to more
> > complex forms of life. The mechanisms of macro-evolution, including whether
> > or
> > not micro-evolution over a long enough time leads to macro-evolution, can be
> > regarded as a "research topic".
> > 
> > Larry has focused on 3.
> > My new thread is focused on 2. (and to a lesser degree 1.)
> 
> In which case it shouldn't have Darwinism in its title... it has nothing to
> do with speciation.

My new thread does not have Darwinism in it's title -
It is: Evolution - Impossible!
I acknowledge that it's a bit general in the use of "Evolution"

-Jon



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  Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism
 
(...) This is not true, there are creationists that dispute it. SRC for example. (...) I don't think these mechanisms are at all similar, really. (although since the argument is made that we are actually colonies of cooperating organisms who happen (...) (26 years ago, 21-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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