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Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Sat, 20 Jan 2001 05:27:31 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, James Brown writes:
> How is "operating under the assumption" different that "having faith in"?
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> This, I think, is what we're stumbling around. I see them as one and the
> same. I'm picking up from context that you think the definition of faith
> requires a "without evidence whatsoever" clause.
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> James
Major snippage of worthy discussion, but the really important part is here.
Rummaging for a dictionary...
faith
1. Complete confidence or trust.
2. Belief in God or the doctrines of religion.
3. A system of religious belief.
4. Loyality or fidelity.
So let's see:
1. I've been pretty consistent about pointing out that my confidence or
trust is NOT complete.
2. Whoops!
3. Whoops!
4. As in keeping faith, which doesn't really apply here (there was also "bad
faith" and "good faith" listed, but the same goes).
There ya go. Probably not the best of dictionaries, but it was what was at
hand. Operating under an assumption is not faith since I hardly have
complete confidence in it. Some areas of science may infinitely approach
complete trust, but since science pretty much holds that you need to be
prepared to modify your conclusions, there isn't such a thing as complete
trust in science.
Bruce
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Message has 2 Replies:
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| (...) Yup. I figured it was a definition thing after the first couple of messages back and forth. I don't like the dictionary you're using. :) I have never understood faith as "complete confidence or trust", but rather "confidence or trust". With (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism
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| (...) I'm gonna go ahead and agree with James-- If that's the definition of faith you're using, then I agree with you. But honestly? I think dictionaries are wrong. I have more faith in my comprehension of certain words than faith in the (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) WHOA! That is completely not what I'm saying. (...) How do you test to see if your thought processes are valid? How do you test to see if the world is consistent with your perception of the world? Where are the knowns in that equation? (...) (...) (24 years ago, 19-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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