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Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism
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Fri, 19 Jan 2001 23:47:06 GMT
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No, evolution didn't happen.

As Sherlock Holmes states - or is attributed to have said,
"After you eliminate the impossible whatever you are left with, however
improbable, must be the answer."

I'm not stating that Creation happened (not here, or now, at least) - but
rather that evolution didn't - and couldn't have been the cause of our
existance.

Just because we exist is no proof that evolution was the cause.

But, after you realize that evolution could not have been behind our existance,
then you'll begin to examine other explainations.

Please see my new thead.

-Jon

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
> No, just Highly Improbable.  But it obviously happened ;-)
> 
> 
> Jon Kozan wrote:
> 
> > Evolution is impossible.
> > http://news.lugnet.com/off-topic/debate/?n=8797
> > -Jon
> > 
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
> > > Jon Kozan wrote:
> > > 
> > > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> > > > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jon Kozan writes:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > In fact the odds are so _not_ with [life's formation] (about 1 in 10 • with
> > 50,
> > > > > > give or take 10, zeros chance) that we could never have come into being
> > > > > > without some other force/being/etc behind it.
> > > > > 
> > > > >  Exactly!  And evolution is that force!
> > > > > 
> > > > >   More precisely, where are you getting those figures?  It differs • markedly
> > > > > from the estimations for number of inhabitable planets in the galaxy, • much
> > > > > less the universe.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > (It's Friday, so I have time to do this :-))
> > > > 
> > > > Evolution is not a force - it's:
> > > > a) a theory, involving
> > > > b) random chance
> > > > 
> > > > Random chance cannot product life.
> > > 
> > > Prove it (what's that?  We've said time and time again you can't prove a • negative?)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > the odds are just too far much.
> > > 
> > > And just EXACTLY where are you getting these odds?  Have you calculated • them?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >  Indeed
> > > > today's leading edge evolution scientists have either a) ceased • discussing
> > the
> > > > random chance and time tenants of evolution since they don't work out; or • b)
> > > > claim that because they don't, we must have come from an alien race • (another
> > > > intelligent life form)
> > > 
> > > We didn't even have to come from an INTELLIGENT life form. • Bacteria/viruses
> > in
> > > extraterrestrial matter could have evolved into us IF we didn't evolve from • base
> > > elements here.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --
> > > | Tom Stangl, Technical Support          Netscape Communications Corp
> > > |      Please do not associate my personal views with my employer
> 
> --
> | Tom Stangl, Technical Support          Netscape Communications Corp
> |      Please do not associate my personal views with my employer



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  Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism
 
(...) Sherlock is a fictional character, not a scientist (and I suppose I shouldn't mention Piltdown Man and Sir Arthur Conan Doyle in the same breath). :-O Bruce (26 years ago, 20-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism
 
No, just Highly Improbable. But it obviously happened ;-) (...) -- | Tom Stangl, Technical Support Netscape Communications Corp | Please do not associate my personal views with my employer (26 years ago, 19-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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