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Re: Description vs. argument
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:34:31 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
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> > As does most of the world, up until a few years ago many still viewed this
> > homosexuality as a medical condition. Thankfully, those days have mostly
> > passed - so much so that homosexuality is not an issue. Indeed, there are a
> > few at the highest level of UK politics.
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> Oh...well if that's all it takes, then I can dispel your assertions by
> mentioning that there are a few blacks at the highest levels of US government
> too. Great.
>
> > > > Or did you not have rather unsavoury "witch hunts"?
> > >
> > > We did.
> >
> > Why were they not free to be communists? Whay did there right not protect
> them?
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> Their rights did protect them. But bad men in the government -- the kind that
> I wish to be armed in order to defend against -- usurpped their rights
> unjustly.
Indeed. So what is the point of your system, if your "god given" rights can
be removed the government? Are they only fair weather rights?
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> > > > While we are talking about education, when did
> > > > the US get rid of segregation in the education system?
> > >
> > > Segregation based on what? Skin tone? Um...at least by 1600 in some • schools.
> > > Why do you ask?
> >
> > "some schools" is not all schools. Where segregation did exist, was the
> > level of education given equal to all?
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> I see. So is it your position that a rigorous investigation of the UK could
> not find schools which are fairly strictly segregated by ethnicity? I don't
> _know_ that you're wrong. But I think so.
I know of no UK school which has a "whites only" policy in the last century.
I know of no UK organisation, with the consent of the law, which had a
"whites only" policy. In the eyes of the law we are all equal - at least
since emacipation.
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> > > Parents should be able to decide to which school they will send their • children.
> > > That decision could be based on the curricula, social and affective • handling,
> > > rights issues, location, etc. Parents should not dictate what schools teach
> > > because schools should be private.
> >
> > But you think it is OK for a school to have a "whites only" outlook?
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> OK? that depends on what you mean. I think it should be legal. I wouldn't
> send my kids there.
OK, we differ their.
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> > Not quite. I have shown that your system has allowed persecution of
> > communists and school children based on the colour of their skin.
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> Right. Everybody's system has persecuted people. And this isn't my darned
> system anyway. Remember? I'm the disenfranchised nut with the guns!
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> > I have shown you that I have/had freedoms that you do not - but you
> > still claim to be freer than me?
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> Oh...I get it...sort of. At least I understand where our communication is
> missing. You think that you've pointed to freedoms that you have and I don't.
> What were they again? I'm not sure how that ties into communist or negro
> persecution
Come now chris. Freedom of expression is a fundamental freedom. It is the
key to democracy. Further to that, we all should have equal rights – the
right to an education should included in that?
ScottA
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> Chris
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