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Subject: 
Re: Polyamory
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Date: 
Sun, 17 Dec 2000 13:48:39 GMT
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message
news:G5oq6B.9Hv@lugnet.com...
Scott:
Lar:

You DO grasp the
difference between public and private, as used in the US, right? OK... • more
slowly.

It's a public school board. If it were a private school they should be • able
to enforce any behaviour standards they like on their employees, • including
requiring that their teachers be gay or not be gay. But public bodies,
including public schools should not be able to discriminate in that way.

Usually, you tell me that they should be able to. Usually you say such
institutions will discover such actions are bad - and the market should
decide. I'll ask you again, do you think any school, public or private,
should be able to sack a member of staff for being gay?

You really are a bit dense sometimes, Scott... Quoting myself in the *very
paragraph* you're supposedly "responding" to..

If it were a private school they should be able
to enforce any behaviour standards they like on their employees, • including
requiring that their teachers be gay or not be gay. But public bodies,
including public schools should not be able to discriminate in that way.

Is that so hard to understand?  In shorter sentences: Public (government
funded) no. Private yes.

Like I've said before. A thousand times.

Governments should not, *must* not, discriminate against behaviours that • in
and of themselves don't directly violate rights. This *has* to be put in
their constitutions in a non revokable way, or they are flawed
governments.

Why? Why should public/private be different? Do they not operate in the same
marketplace? Should they not compete using the same rules? Is it not your
normal assertion that there should be no state school system?


Private organizations would be well served not to discriminate, and the
market will punish them for unfounded discrimination, but they should be
allowed to make their own mistakes.


Nonsense - and you know it. It is unfortunate, but there are bigots amongst
us. They would simply seek out a discriminatory school, to give their kids a
'pure' education. It is my belief that education should only be based on
ability to learn - anything else wastes talent.

Sorry if that's too subtle a distinction for uncritical thinkers.

Yawn.

Scott A


++Lar



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  Re: Polyamory
 
(...) If you can't grasp the distinction here, there's not much hope (...) Nope. (...) Nope. Government, in view of its great competitive advantage (it *makes* the rules) must be tightly constrained. (...) Yes, but in cases where there is a public X (...) (24 years ago, 18-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Polyamory
 
Scott: (...) You really are a bit dense sometimes, Scott... Quoting myself in the *very paragraph* you're supposedly "responding" to.. (...) Is that so hard to understand? In shorter sentences: Public (government funded) no. Private yes. Like I've (...) (24 years ago, 16-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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