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Re: Problems with Christianity
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:55:24 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
> SRC wrote:
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> > 2. Christ's significance isn't limited to just what He said and did.
> > You speak of Him in the past tense - it's not what He did - it's who He IS.
> > Christmas and Easter are celebrations of the three most significant events
> > in history - Christ's birth, death, and resurrection.
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> Not really - Xmas was a pagan ritual coopted by the Christians because they
> couldn't quash it.
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Minor point: Christmas is of Catholic origin, springing from Constantines
pronouncement of Rome as a Christian Empire. They kept their basics
practices and just changed the name plates on the base of their idols. In
the Pilgrim days Christmas and Catholicism were not permitted (because of
fleeing it's persecution). I do differentiate between Christian and Catholic
on the basis of the Popes recent statements that Mary is co-redemptress with
Christ and even more recent statement that believing in Christ is not
necessary as long as you're a decent person. The focus on Mary and the
sacraments is also antithetical to salvation by grace alone.
These remarks are not intended to criticize the sincerity of practicing
Catholics, merely to point out that there are fundamental differences in
matters of soteriology between Catholicism and Biblical Christianity.
Bill
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Message has 4 Replies:
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| In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bill Farkas writes: [The pope's] (...) Fascinating! Can you provide a cite? Maybe the pope is catholic(1) after all :-) 1 - in the secular meaning of catholic ++Lar (24 years ago, 16-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) The Christmas that is celebrated today is bits and pieces of a variety of traditions and religions from all over the place. If you are refering to the name, yes, that comes from the Roman Catholic Christ Mass. Various Christian sects have (...) (24 years ago, 16-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I'm not Catholic, but I've generally found myself in agreement with all the Pope's previous statements. There must be some kind of mistake - I just can't see him saying something clearly un-Biblical like that. SRC (24 years ago, 16-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Problems with Christianity
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| (...) Not really - Xmas was a pagan ritual coopted by the Christians because they couldn't quash it. (...) But if you don't believe in Eternity, who cares? Certainly not the person that doesn't. (...) Actually, it was founded on freedom OF religion, (...) (24 years ago, 15-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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