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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
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> > > > I'm against states expressing a preference one way or the other.
> > > >
> > > > ++Lar
> > >
> > > State? I think you mean society.
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> > No.
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> > I wrote state because I meant state. Societies can't express preferences.
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> I think they can.
You're not paying attention, Scott. The very next paragraph explains why a
society cannot express a preference. The majority of members can hold a
preference and can use the organs of the state to impose their view, but a
society, since it is not an entity with a consciousness, cannot express a
preference.
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> > Members of societes can (forcibly) *impose* their preferences on other
> > members, through the mechanics of the state, but the society as a whole
> > cannot have a preference, it's not an entity capable of having preferences.
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> I accept that the majority in a society can implement change - we call it
> democracy.
You may accept an unlimited democracy in which the people can vote
themselves bread and circuses, at which they watch the minorities they don't
currently care for get fed to the lions as soon as some demagouge convinces
them that's the way to vote.... yes, you may accept that.
But I don't.
I prefer a constrained government which is strictly limited in what it can
and cannot do. This is a fundamental difference between us. I prefer
freedom, and you would rather reap the temporary benefits of democratically
imposed tyranny.
++Lar
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| (...) Does a society not express a preference in a referendum? (...) I think you are putting words in my mouth Larry - and they are all the wrong ones. (...) I feel a little sorry for you Larry. You sound so bitter at what you feel your fellow man (...) (24 years ago, 15-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I think they can. (...) I accept that the majority in a society can implement change - we call it democracy. Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 15-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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