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Re: Polyamory
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Date: 
Fri, 15 Dec 2000 00:56:07 GMT
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Scott A wrote:

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Eric Joslin writes:

First of all, what state is forcing morality on anyone?

When a state says that a contract between a man and a woman has more
standing or more importance, that is, that it is recognised as a special
kind of contract, when compared to a contract between a man and a man or a
man and two women (like i could afford THAT)... that state is expressing a
moral preference for one kind of contract compared to the other.

That is not a force, but is a preference. It can be a VERY strong preference
when one considers all the tax/benefit/custody, etc etc, ramifications...

I'm against states expressing a preference one way or the other.

++Lar

State? I think you mean society.

No, I'm sure he means State/Government. If you distil "society" (as
you're referring to it here) down, it amounts to two forces:

- market (in that if "society" frowns upon certain activities, there
will be influence on cost/benefit analysis which will tend to reduce the
level of those activities)

- government (in that government, by using "force", the use of taxes,
law enforcement, and the courts, can constrain certain activities)

Market forces are ok, and can and should act on anything they want to.
Government forces should be constrained to the smallest subset of
"force" required to make sure that the market is free to do what it will
(which requires that all individuals rights be respected - if individual
rights are not being respected, you don't have a free market).

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Frank Filz

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  Re: Polyamory
 
(...) Well, in the society I am part of polyamory and polygamy are not socially acceptable. Scott A (24 years ago, 15-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Polyamory
 
(...) You say "government" like it were an entity which just appeared after some sort of a coup. Here in the UK, the government exists "create an open and inclusive society, where rights are balanced with responsibilities, and where every citizen (...) (24 years ago, 15-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Polyamory
 
(...) State? I think you mean society. Scott A (24 years ago, 14-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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