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Re: Critical Thinking
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Fri, 1 Dec 2000 22:05:29 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jon Kozan writes:
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> > By his standard - the Big Bang theory wouldn't holdup either - AND it is far
> > more "current" of a theory than creationism. (sigh)
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> The difference, without generating yet another sub-debate, is that the Big
> Bang can be retroactively derived from observable and replicable events.
> The Creation reported in Genesis is by definition (as you've noted) a
> supernatural event that can't be reproduced (by us). It follows, therefore,
> that since the Big Bang can be understood in terms of physics, even if we
> don't yet have all the answers, it can be discussed in terms of empirical
> evidence and scientific explanation. Genesis-Creation cannot be discussed
> in these terms.
Speaking as a Physicist myself... (are you??)
Physics cannot prove the Big Bang - any honest Physicist will admit, as do I,
that it is only a _theory_, indeed, one which cannot be proven.
Evidence suggests that something occurred, but evidence only takes us back to
an instant _after_ the something/the event occurred.
And please believe me - no one's suggesting that we can in any way re-create
the Big Bang. It's like trying to re-create the emergence of life. We simulate
something in a accelerator or lab and then apply our thoery on top of it.
-Jon
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| (...) All right, all right. What I was getting at is that The Big Bang doesn't imply any supernatural intervention, and as such it is by definition theoretically accessible under physical theories (even if they haven't been formulated yet). At no (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| The bigger point is: Even if we thought we COULD reproduce the BigBang, should we? What would be the consequences? Would we annihilate our universe in the process? A smaller point related - Black Hole theory. While investigating Black Holes is (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) The difference, without generating yet another sub-debate, is that the Big Bang can be retroactively derived from observable and replicable events. The Creation reported in Genesis is by definition (as you've noted) a supernatural event that (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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