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Re: Critical Thinking
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Fri, 1 Dec 2000 22:02:49 GMT
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message
news:G4wp09.635@lugnet.com...
<snip>
> He didn't say that, exactly. He said every "meaningful"
> (paraphrasing) true claim is falsifiable and then proceeded
> to show why non falsifiable claims don't help us in our
> understanding.
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> Good point but while you're thinking about that,
> think about Goedel, and whether the cited statements
> are claims, or are process descriptions about
> how the system of verifying claims works.
The author is stating something he believes is a fact. Last time I
checked, that's a claim.
So, is the author's claim meaningful? If not, let's just discard it now.
If it is meaningful, then is the statement, "every *meaningful* true
claim is falsifiable" falsifiable? Nothing has really changed. My point
still stands.
Also, who defines what's meaningful? What's meaningful for me may not
mean poodo to you, and vis-versa. Adding "meaningful" to the argument
merely weakens it, since we now introduce a subjective variable into the
statement that is supposedly objective.
--
later... Jer
irvinej@accuvera.com
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Message has 1 Reply:
 | | Re: Critical Thinking
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| In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jeromy Irvine writes: <snip> Think about Goedel and whether the author's statements are part of the system they describe or not. They aren't. But since you won't do that thinking... When I put meaningful in quotes I was (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Critical Thinking
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| (...) He didn't say that, exactly. He said every "meaningful" (paraphrasing) true claim is falsifiable and then proceeded to show why non falsifiable claims don't help us in our understanding. (...) Good point but while you're thinking about that, (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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