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Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
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Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:59:49 GMT
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Dave Schuler wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
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> > But YOUR god (assuming he exists) sets the rules, so even if a person goes to
> > hell for their perceived sins, they go there because God made them, through
> > the rules. God, if he truly loved his children, would allow ALL into heaven,
> > regardless of sins.
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> One could argue that God truly loves His children and so gives them the
> choice to accept or reject His love. In a way, that's a more mature and
> respectful love than simply saying "I love you so you're in, whether you
> love me or not." Moreover, He's not saying "obey Me and you're in the
> club;" He's saying "embrace Me and I will return your embrace, reject Me and
> I will allow you to reject Me."
Precisely. Excellent point, Dave!
> > But that wouldn't have let the governments/churches hang doom over people's
> > heads to get them to behave, so we can't have something like that.
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> Whether you believe in God or not, it is inappropriate to dismiss His
> existence (or validate it, for that matter) solely on the good or bad
> actions of His purported followers, just as it is inappropriate to dismiss
> genetic theory simply because it has been used to justify eugenics.
Yes. BTW, although clumsy, I try and not refer to God with the masculine
pronoun, unless I am specifically referring to the metaphor of God as the Father
and we as His children. God is too big for a limiting pronoun:-)
-John
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> Dave!
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| (...) One could argue that God truly loves His children and so gives them the choice to accept or reject His love. In a way, that's a more mature and respectful love than simply saying "I love you so you're in, whether you love me or not." Moreover, (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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