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Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
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Date: 
Fri, 1 Dec 2000 07:34:26 GMT
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Eric McCarthy wrote:

John Neal wrote:

A Christian does good in response to God's love.  God loved us first and our
response is to reflect that love as best we can to others in our daily lives.
That is why Christians do good.  Why an atheist does is beyond me, but if anyone
knows, please do tell.

An atheist believes there is no God.  An atheist may have other beliefs,
such as "people are intrinsically good" or "I am intrinsically good."

Also, doing good as an atheist could be more self-rewarding than doing
good as a Christian.

Self-rewarding good-doing isn't by definition altruistic.

An atheist might think:  "Look at me.. I'm doing
good because I'm intrinsically good, whereas you're only doing good
because of the fear of hell."

Christians certainly don't do good for fear of hell.  Christianity 101: Saved by
Grace.  Nothing anyone can do can curry God's love-- it is unconditionally given.
Christians do good with joy in *response* to God's love.

-John

(I would use the phrase "holier than thou"
but it doesn't quite work here. :-)

/Eric McC/



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  Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
(...) Earning brownie points to get into heaven is self-rewarding, so I guess you are saying Christians are NEVER altruistic? (...) Yet your god sends people to Hell. "I love you, but go suffer for an eternity". No thanks. -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) An atheist believes there is no God. An atheist may have other beliefs, such as "people are intrinsically good" or "I am intrinsically good." Also, doing good as an atheist could be more self-rewarding than doing good as a Christian. An (...) (24 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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