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Re: Libertarian debate in danger of pollution (was Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
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Thu, 30 Nov 2000 19:36:09 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tim Courtney writes:
> > If one discounts the value of or refuses to accept faith, then proof isn't
> > a stumbling block at all. This also falls under the subject of "if you
> > can prove it, faith is irrelevant, and if you have faith, proof is
> > irrelevant."
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> You can say that is true, but I prefer to believe that faith and evidence
> and even personal experience all contribute to one's proof of God.
That's fine on a personal level, but you have to recognize that faith,
evidence(1), and personal experience will never prove His existence to
anoter person, as long as that person is objective and subjects your
assertions to critical analysis.
Dave!
(1) "evidence," in this case, refers to those matters which Christians
ascribe to God outright as proof of his presence(2) but which, emprically,
cannot be proven one way or the other to an objective, disinterested observer.
(2) that is, the assertion that "of course God exists; he's present in you
and me and all things" (which isn't what you stated, exactly, but follows
the same reasoning) is circular and ultimately without empirical value.(3)
(3) by the way, I hate footnotes of this sort, but sometimes they're close
to unavoidable.
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