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Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
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Tue, 28 Nov 2000 22:48:12 GMT
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John Neal wrote:
> ... In fact, I see the world evolving the opposite way, where people are becoming more
> and more *un*civil ...
I agree with you, it is very unfortunate.
For example, people swearing at others just because of their
political party affiliation:
http://news.lugnet.com/off-topic/debate/?n=7349
> ... I have argued that man is not Good, that only God is Good.
> I have also asked the question "from where does Good come?",
> and have not gotten a satisfactory answer (from Atheists)...
Maybe you don't associate with liberal humanists enough. :-)
There are also scientific explanations of altruism.
It might be an extension of the child-protecting instinct.
Altruism within a group of primitives trying to
survive is beneficial to the survival of the whole group,
even if one's status within the group is not improved.
So if you agree with evolution, and if a tendency towards
altruistic behavior can be inherited, then you can see how
altruism could arise without the intervention of a
divine being.
There are some sadistic humans who seem not to have any
sense of empathy, let alone altruism. I would not be
surprised if scientists were to find brain structures
that are specificly for empathy and/or altruism, and
to find that those humans are deficient in those brain
structures.
Re: Libertarianism
My experience agrees with both you and Dave factorial that
Libertarians tend to have an idealistic view of human
nature. The biggest Libertarian I know always
rides a bicycle to work to avoid polluting, and he also
donates blood more often than anyone else I know.
If everyone were like him, we wouldn't have pollution
and gridlock, there would be no blood supply shortage,
and Libertarianism would work.
/Eric McC/
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| (...) composed in the heat of the moment, and my frustration got the better of me. Of course, if I were truly uncivil, I would have actually *used* swear words and directed them *at* the people, rather than as some sort of lazy adjective. Actually, (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) If I may interject, because you two have crystallized the crux of the matter here for me. In a perfect world, Libertopia is, IMO, the best form of government you could have. Problem is, you need to have the perfect world *first*. People need (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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