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Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
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Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:04:15 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bill Farkas writes:
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> > Both of you have made my point very clearly - namely this, you cannot fix a
> > problem until you are able to both realize and accept it's root.
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> Just for the record, I think it's worth noting that John and I arrived at
> our conclusions from widely divergent convictions; John's faith is
> apparently stronger than mine, but thoughtful rhetorical consideration,
> paired with a fair perception of man's behavior, can yield similar results.
Agreed, yet the outcome is the same.
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> > Interestingly enough, we have an unintentional answer to the "God" debate
> > straight from Big Lar himself:
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> > http://news.lugnet.com/general/?n=24629
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> Heh. For good or ill, that's kind of a restating of the long-lived
> Ontological Argument for God's Existence.
Yet, as far as I understand it, the Ontological Argument is more about the
nature of existence not whether the thing exists in the first place. As
such, the existence of the thing is already a foregone conclusion. As my
reference to Lar's observation above indicates: someone who has not
witnessed a thing cannot refute someone who has. I don't believe that the
existence of God is a theoretical or "a priori" metaphysical matter. It is a
matter that is quite substantial. The problem is this: one does not seek
answers to mathematics from a literary coach any more than you would seek
Hawaii in the Atlantic. Those who have not found God have not sought him in
the right place.
Bill
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