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Re: From Harry Browne
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Thu, 16 Nov 2000 04:48:59 GMT
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Shiri Dori wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> >
> >
> > Maggie Cambron wrote:
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> > I hope it's okay to butt in, but I have a question for you, Maggie (or anyone,
> > really; I guess that I just find women's perspectives more vested on this >topic).
> > Should a woman who engages in sexual activity as a willing participant be at >all
> > responsible for becoming pregnant?
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> IMO, yes.
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> > Barring rape or contraceptive failure, hasn't
> > she brought the violation upon herself?
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> Yes.
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> > I know that she doesn't *want* to become
> > pregnant, but if she is careless and becomes pregnant, then by what right >should
> > she be able to abort? Is the pregnancy *really* against her will? Her will >was
> > to play sexual roulette-- shouldn't she have to endure the consequences of her
> > actions?
>
> Well. Now that's a tougher one.
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> My opinion on this is that the number of abortions should be decreased
> through means of *education* about contraceptives, about sex abstinance, and
> yes, values. I've been distilled with all of those, luckily, and I know that
> I barring the above cases (rape, cc failure) I would not get pregnant
> unwillingly. But there a lot of young women, even girls, out there who
> haven't had that. Maybe they're missing on one, maybe more; but I think that
> should be fixed.
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> I do NOT think that abortions should be outlawed, but reduced through these
> means.
Why should abortions be reduced?
> I think that if, IF, I am ever faced with an unwanted pregnancy, I
> would like to make my own decisions.
Unwanted how? Rape? Carelessness? Would it matter? What would the options be?
> It would be hard to make a decision
> like that;
For what reasons exactly would it be a hard decision? Do they revolve around you or
the fetus?
> and I would certainly not make it without levelheaded thought.
> But others might.
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> <sigh> what a nice place the world would be if everyone had some values. <grin>
*good* values:-) Thanks for chiming in.
-John
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> -Shiri
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| (...) Because at a certain point, abortion IS murder. By the end of the pregnancy the fetus is all but a baby, and deflating its/his/her skull is not letting it live. The rpoblem is, when exactly is that point; no one can say. The best solution is (...) (26 years ago, 16-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) IMO, yes. (...) Yes. (...) Well. Now that's a tougher one. My opinion on this is that the number of abortions should be decreased through means of *education* about contraceptives, about sex abstinance, and yes, values. I've been distilled (...) (26 years ago, 16-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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