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Re: From Harry Browne
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Date: 
Thu, 16 Nov 2000 04:48:59 GMT
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Shiri Dori wrote:

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:


Maggie Cambron wrote:

I hope it's okay to butt in, but I have a question for you, Maggie (or anyone,
really; I guess that I just find women's perspectives more vested on this >topic).
Should a woman who engages in sexual activity as a willing participant be at >all
responsible for becoming pregnant?

IMO, yes.

Barring rape or contraceptive failure, hasn't
she brought the violation upon herself?

Yes.

I know that she doesn't *want* to become
pregnant, but if she is careless and becomes pregnant, then by what right >should
she be able to abort?  Is the pregnancy *really* against her will?  Her will >was
to play sexual roulette-- shouldn't she have to endure the consequences of her
actions?

Well. Now that's a tougher one.

My opinion on this is that the number of abortions should be decreased
through means of *education* about contraceptives, about sex abstinance, and
yes, values. I've been distilled with all of those, luckily, and I know that
I barring the above cases (rape, cc failure) I would not get pregnant
unwillingly. But there a lot of young women, even girls, out there who
haven't had that. Maybe they're missing on one, maybe more; but I think that
should be fixed.

I do NOT think that abortions should be outlawed, but reduced through these
means.

Why should abortions be reduced?

I think that if, IF, I am ever faced with an unwanted pregnancy, I
would like to make my own decisions.

Unwanted how? Rape? Carelessness?  Would it matter?  What would the options be?

It would be hard to make a decision
like that;

For what reasons exactly would it be a hard decision?  Do they revolve around you or
the fetus?

and I would certainly not make it without levelheaded thought.
But others might.

<sigh> what a nice place the world would be if everyone had some values. <grin>

*good* values:-)  Thanks for chiming in.

-John



-Shiri



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(...) Because at a certain point, abortion IS murder. By the end of the pregnancy the fetus is all but a baby, and deflating its/his/her skull is not letting it live. The rpoblem is, when exactly is that point; no one can say. The best solution is (...) (24 years ago, 16-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: From Harry Browne
 
(...) IMO, yes. (...) Yes. (...) Well. Now that's a tougher one. My opinion on this is that the number of abortions should be decreased through means of *education* about contraceptives, about sex abstinance, and yes, values. I've been distilled (...) (24 years ago, 16-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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