Subject:
|
Re: From Harry Browne
|
Newsgroups:
|
lugnet.off-topic.debate
|
Date:
|
Wed, 15 Nov 2000 17:18:00 GMT
|
Viewed:
|
876 times
|
| |
|
|
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> > > Well, let's see.... if you want to apply the same logic, you need to choose
> > > a comparable crime.
> >
> > I did. Murder of an adult and murder of a fetus. You're turning it around
> > wrong.
>
> <SNIPPED>
>
> Sorry to barge in. I think you could argue, as you do, that both your
> hypothetical adult & foetus could be considered victims in murder. However,
> the if a foetus were to cease to exist, society would not notice - there
> would be no other "victim" other than the foetus itself.
Agreed. Absolutely. I personally value most adults more than any fetus. On
the other hand, I'm not sure that we want our laws to set the severity of
penalty for murder based on the societal importance of the victim. In that
case, killing a nine year old orphan would have less penalty than killing your
dentist.
This actually makes sense from a certain perspective, but I think we want to be
as objective as possible about crime penalties.
> Whereas, your
> hypothetical adult may well have friends, family and contributions to make
> to society as a whole - so there would be a far greater loss. Therefore, in
> the broadest sense, you two cases are not equivalent... at least in my mind,
> at this moment.
I think that they were logically equivalent. Not exactly the same.
Chris
|
|
Message has 1 Reply:
 | | Re: From Harry Browne
|
| (...) Yes, I had thought of that when I drafted my last post. I suppose society has "invested" in your hypothetical 9 year old... but that is not a very strong argument. I suppose my original argument reflects the current trend for the views of (...) (24 years ago, 16-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
Message is in Reply To:
| | Re: From Harry Browne
|
| (...) <SNIPPED> Sorry to barge in. I think you could argue, as you do, that both your hypothetical adult & foetus could be considered victims in murder. However, the if a foetus were to cease to exist, society would not notice - there would be no (...) (24 years ago, 15-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
279 Messages in This Thread:
(Inline display suppressed due to large size. Click Dots below to view.)
- Entire Thread on One Page:
- Nested:
All | Brief | Compact | Dots
Linear:
All | Brief | Compact
This Message and its Replies on One Page:
- Nested:
All | Brief | Compact | Dots
Linear:
All | Brief | Compact
|
|
|
|
