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Re: Abortion, consistent with the LP stance? (Re: From Harry Browne
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:55:48 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tim Courtney writes:
> So you're stating that sex is an end to itself,
In general, yes.
> and pregnancy is an occasional accident?
It has certainly been known to happen.
> So basically...we accidentally have a population of some 6 billion.
Yes!
> I can't agree.
Why not? It seems rather obvious to me. If not, then what guiding force do
you attribute it to?
> Though sex has its own individual merits, the obvious natural purpose is
> reproduction to further the species (from whatever perspective of origins
> you carry).
There is no such thing as natural purpose. Intelligences are the only things
with purpose, and evolution worked the way it did by a set of mostly understood
general principles, but there is no directive hand pushing things along.
> Is the fact that it is non-sentient make it non-human?
In a genetic sense, no. In a psychological sense, yes.
> And what do you believe about euthanasia for so-called 'vegetables'
> hooked up to machines? They aren't sentient either, but they're
> clearly human. Does it line up?
I think the case of these people is actually tougher. It may be easier if
they've left instructions. If so, we follow them. If not, at least to some
extent they have earned a place in society that fetuses have not through
expressiveness. Ultimately, I think that if there is a reasonable chance that
they will revive, they still get their rights. If not, we might go ahead and
unplug them and let them die fully.
> Lots of people on the pro-choice side try to excuse the abortion issue as a
> religious issue. Though many faiths are against abortion, its not purely a
> religious issue, its a human rights issue.
Agreed, but first, what is human? And if you support the selective removal of
rights (and you do), then you have affirmed that it is society's place to
decide which people get rights.
Chris
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