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Re: Abortion, consistent with the LP stance? (Re: From Harry Browne
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Fri, 10 Nov 2000 18:08:25 GMT
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Scott A wrote:
I see you point of view, but I still feel a life is a life. Personally, I
could never take another life in cold blood - no matter what the reason. The
only death I can remember agreeing with was this one:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_937000/937586.stm

...and I was not "happy" with that.

That was a good one to bring up. From what I have read of the issue with
the siamese twins, I am in fact happy with the decision. I am satisfied
that a rights based examination of the situation was made.

In the case of abortion, it is equally important to examine everyone's
rights (including the father's). There are certainly circumstances where
the continuance of a pregnancy will most likely result in neither the
baby nor the mother surviving. In this case, the mother most probably
has the strongest right to chose the action which gives her the most
chance of survival (but she also has the right to chose to hope that the
outcome will be different and possibly sacrifice her life). In other
circumstances, it will be clear that the mother was fully consenting and
informed before conception, and that the baby will do just fine when
born, and then the mother's rights are most probably pretty limited (and
in fact, most probably has an obligation of support to the child).

On the other hand, there are very muddy circumstances. What if the
conception occured as a result of rape? What if it occured just because
the mother was uninformed? What if there is a medical prediction that
the baby could be born alive, but has some condition which will cause it
to live at most a few weeks, and by the way, will cost an astronomical
amount of money to protect the mother and keep the child alive for those
few weeks?

Some of the reasons this is such a large debate in the US are:

- We probably have the most diverse population in the world
- Our political system probably gives individuals the most voice to
their opinions
- We value individuality probably more than almost anywhere else in the
world
- The debate may have a certain "safety" in that probably most people
neither want an abortion free-for-all or a no abortions ever for any
reason stance, so all we're really debating is the middle ground
- Probably it's easier to demonize your oponent over this issue than
address the real issues which affect 90% of the population on a day to
day basis

--
Frank Filz

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Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com (business only please)
Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com



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  Re: Abortion, consistent with the LP stance? (Re: From Harry Browne
 
(...) Agreed, but what are they? There is a clear incongruity in the US, in that the father has _no_ say in whether the child is aborted -- it all rests with the mother, and yet the father is financially burdened with no recourse. (...) What about (...) (24 years ago, 11-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Abortion, consistent with the LP stance? (Re: From Harry Browne
 
(...) I see you point of view, but I still feel a life is a life. Personally, I could never take another life in cold blood - no matter what the reason. The only death I can remember agreeing with was this one: (URL) I was not "happy" with that. Is (...) (24 years ago, 10-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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