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Re: Abortion, consistent with the LP stance? (Re: From Harry Browne
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Date: 
Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:48:59 GMT
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Scott A wrote:

> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> > The whole problem of the abortion debate is that it is actually *two*
> > debates intertwined into one.  One, whether the government has the right
> > to tell one what one can do with one's body (most would say no),
> 
> This issue aside, I can't agree with this. Goverment should also protect us
> from ourselves.

Government should protect us from ourselves???  This is an absurd statement in
my mind (see my statement about avoiding personal responsibility), but I sense
a fundamental disagreement here as to the purpose of government and will agree
to disagree.

> If one were to decide to take ones own life, one would
> expect "government" to get involved.
> 
> > and
> > whether one has the right to take the life of another (most would say
> > no).
> 
> Perhaps. However, a man was democratically executed in Texas last-night(?).

Scott Simpson in the post above differentiates very well the difference
between ending the life of an innocent fetus, and ending the life of a brutal
murderer, etc.  My statement assumed unjustified taking of a life.  Government
executions of convicted criminals are just (assuming a fair trial).

-John

> 
> 
> Scott A
> 
> > 
> > Until we can separate these two issues, the abortion debate with *never*
> > be solved, especially in a time when our culture is so reticent to the
> > idea of accepting personal responsibility for personal actions.
> > 
> > -.02,
> > John
> > 
> > Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> > 
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > > 
> > > I missed this ref, it's even better:
> > > 
> > > http://www.lp.org/lpn/9807-pulse.html
> > > 
> > > (note that both of these refs were found by typing "abortion" into the
> > > search box at the bottom of the front page of the www.lp.org site...)
> > > 
> > > I'm in the 4.9% camp at the moment.
> > > 
> > > ++Lar



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  Re: Abortion, consistent with the LP stance? (Re: From Harry Browne
 
(...) I agree :) (...) The problem here is what is "unjustified" to you may be OK to me - or vise versa. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one too. Scott A (...) (26 years ago, 10-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Abortion, consistent with the LP stance? (Re: From Harry Browne
 
(...) This issue aside, I can't agree with this. Goverment should also protect us from ourselves. If one were to decide to take ones own life, one would expect "government" to get involved. (...) Perhaps. However, a man was democratically executed (...) (26 years ago, 10-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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