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Re: From Harry Browne
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Tue, 7 Nov 2000 21:56:26 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:

The other, opposing force, is that gradualism doesn't work. As I've said
before, I think there is a shift toward small l libertarian ideas already
underway, and I will take whatever shift I get. But you don't get government
made signficantly smaller by calling for a minor slowdown in its growth, you
get it by calling for radical surgery.

  That makes sense; you're taking the long view rather than a
get-it-done-now approach, and I think such a plan of attack is therefore
more reasonable and likely to succeed.  At the same time, you're calling for
immediate addressing of the most immediate current problems.

The principles that the LP operates under say that, for example, that all
drugs should be legal. Calling for just pot to be legalised, except as a
first step, misses the mark of trying to free people to suffer the effects
of their choices instead of relying on the state for protection from their
own actions.

  This might be the biggest obstacle the LP has to overcome.  In addition to
having lived in an entitlement mentality for too long, society as a whole
(in my view, and not in any way to exclude myself from the generalization)
is too undisciplined to live in Libertopia.  Libertopia calls for more
personal responsibility and accountability than current society is able to
tolerate. That's not to say certain libertarian attitudes have no place, but
I just don't believe US culture is sufficiently evolved to allow full
personal sovereignty.  Would that it were...

     Dave!



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(...) I'm not convinced that's as big a problem as you might think. Think about it, every consumer protection regulation we have is there because enough people complained that the government addressed the issue. In a Libertopia, with it's free (...) (24 years ago, 7-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) Fair enough. (and it's not only in congress that they are entrenched) There are two opposing forces here that shape the LP platform... One force being that there is a need to avoid Libertarian Macho Flash, which causes people who haven't (...) (24 years ago, 7-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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