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Re: Something not right about Captain Ahnee and the Dipwads?
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Fri, 3 Nov 2000 18:05:40 GMT
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In one context, Jar Jar is a member of a fantasy world who happens to talk
silly and act like an idiot (in my opinion--these are subjective
statements).  Within the framework of that reality, he does not deserve pain
and suffering heaped upon him for failings (as perceived by me--again a
subjective assessment) beyond his control.  If Jar Jar *really* existed in
the real world ::shudders::, he would and should have the same rights and
privileges as every other sentient being.  If you find anyone here who does
not believe that, I will be surprised.

In another context, Jar Jar is a meme--an idea invented by someone.  He has
no physical  reality but rather exists as a intellectual concept.  The
intention of the Jar Jar meme is to be funny, goofy, likable, and a positive
contribution to SW:E1.  In my opinion, the Jar Jar meme is not funny and not
a positive contribution to SW:E1.  The Jar Jar meme causes me pain.  I find
ridicule of the Jar Jar meme funny.  It sends a signal to real human beings,
warning them not to replicate the thing in its original form.

While torturing a real Jar Jar would be unconscionable, ridiculing a meme
that someone created to entertain me is another matter.  It sends a simple
message:  don't make more memes like this.  (Of course, the Jar Jar meme may
enter into a symbiotic relationship with the memes that mock it, and thereby
survive.)

  -Doug

^V^^V^
I am:  Damraska@Excite.com
Minifig Suns:  http://pages.prodigy.net/damraska/

Larry Pieniazek <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message
news:G3G5H4.4yy@lugnet.com...
In lugnet.space, Mark Sandlin writes:
Hi Everyone,

Dan Jassim asked if I would spread the word on this one. He's created a • LEGO
comic strip and wants everyone to check it out.

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=1875

Enjoy.

~Mark "Muffin Head" Sandlin

Call me a stick in the mud, and this may be an unpopular viewpoint.

I looked at this, and I looked at the earlier "Mark goes for donuts". I
laughed a lot, both times. (I laughed at the E! jarjar mockumentary too.)
LOTS of talent went into making these graphic comics, there is no denying • that.

And to a certain extent, all humor centers around the discomfiture,
misfortune, or embarrassment of others or of ourselves.

But is a storyline in which the protagonists either ignore injustice or
actively participate in it... is that storyline "good"? Is it funny, • really,
to see the suffering of another who is being victimized because of his
appearance, language, or (in Jar Jar's case, he's not very bright) mental
handicap?

I just don't know. That's why I followed this up to off-topic.debate. I
expect I am going to get some replies that say "lighten up, it's all in
fun". Heck, I sort of feel that way myself. Something here is making me a
bit queasy, I can't claim that I have come to grips with it exactly. There
are no good guys, per se, in the strip, so we can't say the good guys are
doing bad things...

Talented as this work is, and as much as it made me laugh, I am not sure I
want to see a bunch of other works that all "celebrate" intolerance. or
something.

Jar Jar is a sentient being (of a fantasy world) and I suspect he has • rights
and doesn't like being beat up because he talks funny or looks funny. He
didn't CHOOSE to look goofy, did he?

On the other hand, who am I to say what sort of work other people should
create or not create? I dunno.

++Lar



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: Something not right about Captain Ahnee and the Dipwads?
 
Snipped back a bit. (...) Excellent analysis, Damraska... ++Lar (24 years ago, 3-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Something not right about Captain Ahnee and the Dipwads?
 
I agree with Lar that this is an excellent analysis, but it is a mature and thoughtful point of view. This still leaves open the question of what ages such material may be appropriate to. What youngsters could follow this reasoning much less figure (...) (24 years ago, 3-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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