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Re: Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 20 Jul 2000 20:26:24 GMT
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Christopher Weeks wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
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> > > _Im_moral.
> >
> > Well, I wrote amoral on purpose but agree you could ask two questions here.
> > From the viewpoint of the chickens it's an amoral fight. Chickens don't have
> > morals, they're not sentient enough to have them.
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> I agree with this bit, but I'll get to sentience a bit further down.
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> > > > > How is fighting different than eating animals, which lots of people do?
> > >
> > > It is a few steps further down the road to unnecessary, but basically of the
> > > same kind, if not degree.
> >
> > Here is where we diverge a bit. I'm not a vegetarian and never will be.
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> Never? You allude further down to being close (at least) to buying in to the
> idea that you're rationallizing somewhere. Mightn't you change your mind? If
> not, why not? I am convinced that every person capable and willing to do the
> thinking will come to largely the same conclusion that that I have and decide
> that it's evil/wrong/immoral (take your pick) to eat meat when it is _so_
> clearly not needed. I expect that some of those that figure that out, won't
> change out of weakness, but most of those people won't have gotten that far in
> the first place. So anyway, I think that never is a bit bold.
I can comfortably say I will NEVER stop eating meat (barring an accident that keeps
me from chewing/swallowing food, or meat being outlawed). I don't care if it is
"needed" or not, I LIKE it, I am an omnivore.
I also feel that people shouldn't force their likes on another - so if a veg starts
bugging me about meat, I stop the conversation right there with something along the
lines of "I am an omnivore, you will not change my mind, and I'm not going to avoid
meat in this meal just to make you happy". I don't bug them about NOT eating meat
unless they start bugging me about eating it (and you know, too many vegetarians
try to convert people, it's annoying (especially WHILE TRYING TO EAT!). I know
many that DON'T, and I like them a lot better than the ones that do).
> Agreed on all points. Especially that taking the moral high road is fun.
YOU may think so, but I sure don't - especially while digging into a 16 oz steak at
Outback ;-)
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