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Re: personal responsibility (was:Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal?)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Fri, 26 May 2000 15:46:12 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> Victims are partially responsible for being victims.
So if I stomp on an infant or kill a sleeping person, they're still somehow
responsible? Your assertion, after a fashion, amounts to "victims make
themselves victims."
> > "Your honor, I'm not guilty because I was stabbing at the air, an no one
> > would've gotten hurt if those people hadn't been standing in the way."
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> I would call that a reasonable defense -- unless you were lying, and as your
> judge I would remand you to the custody of the state permanently where you
> could be allowed to serve your community, attempting to pay of the damge that
> you caused, albeit accidentaly as a result of your subhuman stability.
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> The difference between humans and other animals is that we expect them to
> understand this responsibility. If you want to be classified as a wild
> animal, we can treat you as such.
A tempting offer, but I must decline. However, by your previous assertions
there is no moral or logical difference between wild animals and humans--is
that view consistent with this new assertion of "understanding of
responsibility?" How can you keep throwing around terms like "subhuman
stability" and "wild animal," while simultaneously asserting the "logical" and
"moral" equivalency of animals and humans?
> > > In both the case of government bail-out or parental protections, I consider
> > > them more like insurance providers. And I admit that you can apply the same
> > > thing to parents...but it seems different. I didn't get to pick my parents,
> > > but I just had to wait.
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> > By your own assertion you are at least partially responsible for the parents
> > you wound up with, whether you chose them or not.
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> No, I am responsible for what I make of them.
But that's not what you said. You asserted that victims are partially
responsible for being victims.
Dave!
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