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Re: Due Process
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Date: 
Fri, 17 Mar 2000 05:41:05 GMT
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"Scott E. Sanburn" wrote:

To All,

        I read a fascinating article in Design Systems about how restaurants
handle smoking / non smoking areas. Since I work in the Architectural /
Mechanical Engineering realm, most engineers design for certain CFM's
for certain areas, the smoking areas would naturally have more drawn out
for the smoke. However, once the contractor gets the prints, this is one
of the cost downs most contractors go for, the additional cost of the
smoking ductwork and exhaust. I guess in Liberatopia, a restaurant would
want to make sure the smoking and non smoking areas stay clear of each
other, and also have enough negative pressure to suck out the smoke.

I've always wondered if this was something that was implemented in the design phase or after
the fact--it's interesting to hear the reality.  My uncle is an architect in A^2 and has
built or remodeled private residences and public buildings since the 1970s, and he's talked
about some of the shortcuts contractors may take in materials or techniques.  I had no idea,
however, that this was something the contractor could change unilaterally.  Is it unilateral?

Hmm...in a Libertopia, wouldn't we then have to contend with additional categories of
"smoke-friendliness" in places of business, given decriminilization and deregulation of other
oft-smoked substances?  It's an interesting thought to roll around.  (Imagining, while typing
this, the ventilation equivalent of the Get Smart "cone of silence" descending over the
"marijuana section"...)  In Amsterdam, it seems to be handled with a place being either
pot-friendly or not depending on its own declaration, but the places that are also appear to
rely upon that as the claim-to-fame for their business, so it may not provide an accurate
measure with respect to the hypothetical scenario.  (I've never gone into one, so I can't
speak to the ventilation issue in practice.)

best

LFB



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  Re: Due Process
 
(...) "Aaahh yes, the o l d cone of silence trick!" (...) I was in Amsterdam in 89 and they have two Hard Rock Cafes - one for smokes and one for drinks. My friends and I walked into the wrong one by mistake - which being on active duty at the time (...) (25 years ago, 17-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Due Process
 
Lindsay, (...) Ann Arbor, MI? Which one? (...) It depends on the contractor, some are good, some are bad, just like anything else. I know some of the projects here at AEI, we ran into problems with contractors short cutting. The process of building (...) (25 years ago, 17-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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To All, I read a fascinating article in Design Systems about how restaurants handle smoking / non smoking areas. Since I work in the Architectural / Mechanical Engineering realm, most engineers design for certain CFM's for certain areas, the smoking (...) (25 years ago, 17-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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