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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
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> "Scott E. Sanburn" wrote:
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> > To All,
> >
> > I read a fascinating article in Design Systems about how restaurants
> > handle smoking / non smoking areas. Since I work in the Architectural /
> > Mechanical Engineering realm, most engineers design for certain CFM's
> > for certain areas, the smoking areas would naturally have more drawn out
> > for the smoke. However, once the contractor gets the prints, this is one
> > of the cost downs most contractors go for, the additional cost of the
> > smoking ductwork and exhaust. I guess in Liberatopia, a restaurant would
> > want to make sure the smoking and non smoking areas stay clear of each
> > other, and also have enough negative pressure to suck out the smoke.
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> I've always wondered if this was something that was implemented in the design
> phase or after
> the fact--it's interesting to hear the reality. My uncle is an architect in
> A^2 and has
> built or remodeled private residences and public buildings since the 1970s,
> and he's talked
> about some of the shortcuts contractors may take in materials or techniques.
> I had no idea,
> however, that this was something the contractor could change unilaterally. Is
> it unilateral?
>
> Hmm...in a Libertopia, wouldn't we then have to contend with additional
> categories of
> "smoke-friendliness" in places of business, given decriminilization and
> deregulation of other
> oft-smoked substances? It's an interesting thought to roll around.
> (Imagining, while typing
> this, the ventilation equivalent of the Get Smart "cone of silence" descending
"Aaahh yes, the o l d cone of silence trick!"
> over the
> "marijuana section"...) In Amsterdam, it seems to be handled with a place
> being either
> pot-friendly or not depending on its own declaration, but the places that are
> also appear to
> rely upon that as the claim-to-fame for their business, so it may not provide
> an accurate
> measure with respect to the hypothetical scenario. (I've never gone into one,
> so I can't
> speak to the ventilation issue in practice.)
>
> best
>
> LFB
I was in Amsterdam in 89 and they have two Hard Rock Cafes - one for smokes and
one for drinks. My friends and I walked into the wrong one by mistake - which
being on active duty at the time could have been a big mistake - they didn't
seem to have *any* ventilation (which if you think about is the "perfect"
design for that type of establishment). The smoke was so thick you could barely
see, we all said we felt a little buzz after the few seconds we had been in
there. It was a very interesting experience.
Bill
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