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Re: Adam & Eve (If ya can't beat 'em...)
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Fri, 10 Mar 2000 18:17:36 GMT
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Bill Farkas wrote in message ...
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Aaron Hines writes:
Okay, if I can't complain about religious discussions on a Lego newsfeed, • then
I might as well get myself in trouble by stating my views. =)

Okay, so let's start at the beginning.  (Of sorts)  God creates • everything,
and finishes up with Adam and Eve.  Humans, his crowning creation.  He • gives
them two commandments:  Be fruitful, multiply and fill the earth...and do • not
eat of the tree of knowledge, or in that day you will die.

So, this serpent comes along and tells Eve that they won't die if they eat
from the tree (his lie), but will become like gods, knowing good and evil.
She is deceived, and eats from the tree.  Now, I'm making an assumption • here I
know, but bear with me:  Once Eve eats from the tree, she knows that Satan
lied to her, and that she will die.

When Adam hears of this, he is torn.  If Eve dies, he cannot fulfill God's
first commandment, to fill the earth with his offspring.  But since Eve • has
already eaten of the fruit, he must break the second commandment in order • to
fulfill the first.  So he eats as well, and both of them are taken out of • the
Garden.

Now, there is a lot more to this, but it's a start.  I believe in an all-
knowing, all-loving God, and therefore He must have KNOWN this would • happen
before it did.  It is all part of His plan for us.  Think about it:  If • God
had intended us to live in paradise forever from the beginning, would he • have
let Satan mess up his plan at the very start?  I doubt it.

Aaron

Pretty dead on.

Satan didn't mess it up. You're right, God knew this would happen. If you • read
Genesis and Revelation, the beginning of the first is the same as the • ending of
the latter. Everything in between has to do with God's plan of putting away
sin. Satan was once the archangel, and fell because he said "I will be like
God". Michael, who took his place, is now the archangel, which is very cool
because his name means "who is like God?"

Bill

   Hypotheticallly speaking, I agree with both of yas.
  And I want to say something about it, even though this short thread has
been neglected for a week.  It appeared at the top of my list for some
reason.  I haven't been on this group in a long time (luckily for us all).
Anyway, reading the initial post I thought of a lot of people who firmly
believe certain stories, and it seemed strange, as usually those stories
differ wildly from person to person, but anyway... the second post is really
cool to me, so thanks Bill.
   I like the way you wound the Alpha to the Omega - perhaps there is a
reason for everything... like disobeying God and eating an apple - and
growing/learning/suffering for millenia... what is it that is learned?
Perhaps to obey God.  He does loves us, he does wants what is best for us...
and what is best for us must be... for us to know that he knows all, for us
to know that he is right, for us to know not to question him, for us to know
his love.  Hypothetically speaking of course, as I don't Know him or
anything about him, but that sounds good and could be right I guess, and if
it was that would be dandy.  Is there some kind of prize for those who guess
right?  Non-eternal damnation?  I do thank God (or whatever it is) for
enlightenment.
--
   Have fun!
   John
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(...) Pretty dead on. Satan didn't mess it up. You're right, God knew this would happen. If you read Genesis and Revelation, the beginning of the first is the same as the ending of the latter. Everything in between has to do with God's plan of (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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