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Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:48:40 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, James Brown writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Erik Olson writes:
> > It's gotten quiet here, and we're off the lugnet.homepage. I'm going to see if
> > anything runs out of the bushes when I do this...
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> Are you lobbying to have this changed to lugnet.off-topic.troll?
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> > All this splitting hairs & quoting Paul to rule on whether a sinner can be
> > saved and get away with sinning.... I sure hope you religious people intend
> > for your flocks to interpret this as having some relevance for what they do
> > right now. Because I'll tell you this: NOT ONE OF YOU knows if you're saved.
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> How do you know that? Are you claiming omniscience? You *believe* no one
> knows if they're saved with the same apparant fervor that many christians
> *believe* they are saved. If you're going to tell the christians they don't
> know better, don't fall into the same trap, or you look silly.
My meaning was that it's not knowledge, it's faith. You don't *know* your saved
until you experience it. If you mean some psychological transformation, fine,
but nobody knows anything about the afterlife. It's all hearsay. You have to
take other people's word for it, and how did they know? You can't fund a
laboratory, or study for 50 years, and gain one solitary perception of the
afterlife. It's not knowledge.
Harlan Ellison used to say "Nobody knows anything about the future!" In the
literal sense, he's right, you haven't been there yet. Everything else is
conjecture.
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Message has 1 Reply:
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| (...) if (...) And my point was that you can't claim to know they aren't saved either. For all you know, God does talk to each and every professed christian and influence them to act as they do. You are, in fact, *less* likely to know than they are. (...) (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
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| (...) Are you lobbying to have this changed to lugnet.off-topic.troll? (...) How do you know that? Are you claiming omniscience? You *believe* no one knows if they're saved with the same apparant fervor that many christians *believe* they are saved. (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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