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Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]
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Mon, 31 Jan 2000 17:25:54 GMT
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James Brown wrote:
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> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > Frank Filz wrote:
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> > > I know I'm doing a horrible job of this.
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> > No you're not. There's just such a vast conceptual gulf between those
> > that think that man is innately evil and those that think that he is
> > innately good, that you may never be able to bridge it, distracting and
> > disingenious accusations of psychobabble notwithstanding.
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> Agreed, as someone who's often on the other side(1), you're both doing a good
> job (generally) of getting your points across. Where the communication breaks
> down is at base level assumptions, and the fact that the medium is slightly
> awkward for debating.
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> Now, I personally disagree that (extrapolating from what you and Frank said,
> and have said other places) christian belief necessitates "man is innately
> evil" - but that is a very different can of worms, and I'm not going there
> today.
I also happen to disagree that Christian belief necessitates "man is
innately evil." That's because my religion descends from a Christian
belief that believes that man is innately good (though most people in my
religion do not consider themselves Christian any more, but many do, and
it was not until the 1950s or so that the beliefs changed). My point is
that _mainstream_ Christianity is based on the belief in the innate evil
of man.
--
Frank Filz
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Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com (business only please)
Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com
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| (...) Well, I'd disagree there, as well. Well, ok, sort of. I would suggest that many mainstream Christians have this belief, but that it is a misinterpretation of what mainstream Christian churches(1) are teaching - namely that man is inherently (...) (25 years ago, 31-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Agreed, as someone who's often on the other side(1), you're both doing a good job (generally) of getting your points across. Where the communication breaks down is at base level assumptions, and the fact that the medium is slightly awkward for (...) (25 years ago, 31-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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