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| | | (...) In terms of total taxes raised vs GNP, NL comes out at around 25%, whereas the US comes in at just over 30%. That good enough? (...) Not really -- preaching too hard is more likely to turn people away from you than towards you, 9in this day (...) (25 years ago, 13-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: stuff (was: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]) —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | (...) Good enough for what? What if you look at it differently? What % of your income do you pay as income tax? What would it be if you were in the US doing the same kind of work? What about other forms of taxation? What's your sales tax like? How (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: stuff (was: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]) —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | (...) I gave you totals. The total is what matters, not the composition. Jasper (25 years ago, 15-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: stuff (was: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]) —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) I'm interested in breakdowns... as I've said here before, some kinds of taxes have a more pernicious distorting effect and therefore are worse than others. ++Lar (25 years ago, 16-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: stuff (was: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]) —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | (...) Which would those be? The site is at (URL) . You're probably slightly more up on what you want to know than I am. Jasper (25 years ago, 17-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: stuff (was: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]) —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) Any tax, across the board, incents some behaviours and disincents others. Broadly, there seem to be at least three classes of taxation, although there may be others. These are: Income - a tax on the production of wealth Sales - a tax on the (...) (25 years ago, 18-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: stuff (was: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]) —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | (...) VAT in practice, though, is more of a sales tax except that companies don't pay it. What happens is that everybody charges VAT on everything, which is to be transferred through to the government, but companies get any VAT they have paid back. (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: stuff (was: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]) —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) Left out an assumption, thank you, as usual, for not letting me get away with one atom's worth of implicitness. Sigh. Assume the same total revenue take. 40% across the board is surely more distortive than 5% on everything except food (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: stuff (was: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]) —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | (...) And I wasn't thinking straight, or I'd have known what you meant. (...) Yes. And...? (...) When there is production that is going unbought because money that would have been used for consumption (in addition to there being larger production), (...) (25 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: stuff (was: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]) —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) Actually, no. See, for example, any first year Macroeconomics text, for example Samuelson. Excess production (that is, more goods than wages) causes deflation. Excess consumption (that is, more wages than goods) causes inflation. Now, it so (...) (25 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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