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Re: Libertarian stuff (Was: Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?])
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Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:13:00 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:

I haven't seen a homeless CHILD in years.

Which is good, but doesn't mean that they are not there.


But what point are you trying to make, really? That current systems don't seem
to do a good job of making sure everyone has a place? Stipulated. That
America, although the best country in the world since the ChiComs overran Hong
Kong, isn't perfect? Stipulated.

As LUGNET is an international forum, that statement is hardly going to go
without comment! Best for somethings, not best for others...


That totalitarian or thuggish regimes produce lots
of homeless? Stipulated. Who are you arguing with? We're all agreed.

I'm not arguing (m)any of those points - if you follow the thread back not very
far you'll see that I was responding to a very specific assertion made.


What does any of that have to do with the topic, though?

I repeat my assertion on this specific point just as I do for the general:
Things get better as you move in the freedom direction. Africa, the least free
continent per capita on average, has the most refugees per capita, on average.

Agreed - that seems to be a general pattern, but there are other ways to attain
freedom, not neccessarily similar or dissimilar to Libertarianism.

Richard



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  Re: Libertarian stuff (Was: Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?])
 
(...) Trot them out, then. Or far better, and far far far more relevant, answer the main point, that most (not all!!!) homeless Americans deserve it because of the choices they made. Unlike almost all homeless Ugandans or Tibetians or Kurds or (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Libertarian stuff (Was: Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?])
 
(...) How many countries have you lived in??? It must be an awful lot to make that assertion. (...) Okay, but the point that I'm making for the third time is that there are homeless children all over America - does that make you less life-affirming, (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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