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Re: Art! or Not Art!
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Thu, 6 Jan 2000 20:35:26 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jeff Thompson writes:
And even more frightening if the academnic speculation is true
that the painting was modified from its original form, with Saturn
originally having a very erect phallus while he devours the child.

Modified by Goya or some later censor?  I presume that he may have thought it
went over the line into "that's just plain sick" (and not justified by the
myths) or it simply is a delusion by some scholar.  It certainly starts to
edge over the border of what I'm willing to discuss *here*, in any case!  :-)

  Wasn't this painting found on the wall of Goya's hovel after his death?  It
doesn't seem likely to me that Goya would've censored his own painting to
avoid offending himself.  Additionally, I studied this painting in an Art
History course, and I never heard that story, which leads me to conclude that
either my prof hadn't heard it (because she loved dishing scoop on the art
world) or that it's baseless.

     Dave!



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(...) Perhaps. If you'd like to check on the reference, find "No Go the Bogeyman" by Marina Warner in your library, and look up the painting in the book's index. I think I recall the book being well-documented with footnotes and references, and if (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Art! or Not Art!
 
(...) Modified by Goya or some later censor? I presume that he may have thought it went over the line into "that's just plain sick" (and not justified by the myths) or it simply is a delusion by some scholar. It certainly starts to edge over the (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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