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Subject:	Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Thu, 6 Jan 2000 04:33:14 GMT
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Matthew Miller wrote: > > Scott E. Sanburn <ssanburn@cleanweb.net> wrote: > > The US Constitution and Bill of Rights, coined by the founding fathers, > > all rights are God given. > > This sentence doesn't seem to make any sense to me. Can you rephrase/explain > what you're saying? OK, I just got back from Meijer, as I was pushing carts for five hours in the frozen tundra of Michigan (I could use those Arctic Minifig hoods! :) ), and I am tired. My apologies. Alright, The founding fathers concluded, when they wrote the Constitution and Bill of Rights, that all rights granted to the people are God given, and cannot be taken away by the government. Is this better? > > > As in the "rights" of health care, etc., in theory, all are good ideas, in > > utopia. In reality, there is a difference. What does the market do? Who > > will pay for it? Is it in the nations best interest. Who will enforce it? > > Will we lose national sovereignty, etc. > > Ok. So if they're good ideas in a perfect world, is there a problem with > saying that those are things we want to strive for as a > society/cuture/nation/people? They are decent to strive for, but not in the leftist socialist mentality that runs rampant through the UN. If they are all driven by the market, not by government means, that is great. I think the UN can take a hike, and I think the United States can seek those things in our own way. Scott S. _________________________________________________________________________________________ Scott E. Sanburn-> ssanburn@cleanweb.net Systems Administrator/CAD Operator-Affiliated Engineers -> http://www.aeieng.com LEGO Page -> http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/legoindex.html Home Page -> http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3372/index.html

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		Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
(...) Yeah. But I disagree. The founding fathers may have had this belief, but they very carefully didn't write it into the constitution. (...) So if the government does something good, it's still evil? I guess I'm concerned with making things work. (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
(...) Will you stop? Where do you get that idea? What "higher power"? That's not it at all. My goodness what a stew of misconceptions. Do you listen to anything I say or are you just so sure you know what it is that it all blows past you? One more (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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