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Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
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Sun, 2 Jan 2000 21:59:17 GMT
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So, you hate Thomas Edison because you've been shocked before? That
makes sense. You hate him because he bent the rules to fit his needs. Your
anger seems misplaced.
Perhaps the wrong person got the reward and the fame, but perhaps you
shot JFK (and Lincoln, too). I don't want to argue about him, but I would
like to live in a world, where the proper people are rewarded for the fruits
of their labors and where more people feel inclined to labor.
Jasper Janssen wrote in message <3894aa45.960443333@lugnet.com>...
> On Sat, 1 Jan 2000 20:49:39 GMT, "John DiRienzo"
> <ig88888888@stlnet.com> wrote:
> > Jasper Janssen wrote in message <388409e2.919377893@lugnet.com>...
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> > Their (most inventors, I think) concept of living is far removed from the
> > concept held by truly lazy people. They believe in making life easier, so
> > as to continue doing so, not so that at some point we can all not work. • So
>
> Actually, I believe most inventors (the ones who I've seen
> documentaries telling about themselves, which is really all that can
> really tell you what they feel) are in it not so much to make life
> easier for themselves, but to make big bucks, or to make life easier
> for everyone. If they were just in it to make life easier for
> themselves, they wouldn't market their inventions (at great trouble
> and cost, usually), now would they?
>
> > life easier to live (but not to be lazy). Larry chose Edison as an • example,
> > and Edison invented the light bulb because:
>
> As a rather bad example, IMHO.
>
> Edison wasn't constructively lazy, he was plain lazy. If he'd wanted
> to improve life for everyone, he wouldn't have pushed DC over
> what's-his-names' AC for so long, in a battle so hardfought.
>
> He said to the prison administrators the electric chair was to provide
> a more painless way of executing people (a properly executed hanging
> is much more humane..), and he then turned around and used it as an
> example of how dangerous AC was (in reality, DC current is much more
> dangerous than AC, because the muscles tend to contract and glue you
> to the contact, much more so than AC - I've had 220V AC shocks more
> than once (fairly much more than once, actually), but they were never
> more than instaneous. If we were all using DC now like Edison wanted
> (because that was his patent and thus brought him the bucks), I'd be
> dead now. Though some would say that would be a good thing, I
> respectfully disagree.
>
> Then there are the occasions where he swiped other people's ideas and
> not only marketed them under his own name, but published them as such
> as well. I've heard most people say that aside from the lightbulb (and
> even that is claimed by some to be mostly the work of his junior lab
> assistant), he's never invented anything else, despite what old
> encyclopediae might say.
>
> In essence, my view of Edison is mostly that he's a major fraud,
> morally bankrupt, the works. Which was part of the reason i went
> against Larry there ;)
>
> > 3) it would make his life easier; (in a way) he was lazy, and didn't enjoy
> > the tediousness of using oil lamps, when he had better things he could
> > devote his time to. Much like I hate to cook bacon in a pan when I can do
> > it far more easily and quickly (and just as well) in a microwave.
>
> Bacon doesn't cook in a microwave. Well, cook it does, but it doesn't
> fry.
>
> > I don't doubt that. I like reading your arguments; you argue well. • Your
> > wrong sometimes, but I have agreed with you, too.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jasper
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