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You're probably not the only ones that feel that way, you just seem more
vehement about it.
You make a lot of good points, and I've since taken the pics down off my own
web server.
On the subject of legality and ethics, my daily job involves making
judgements in very similar situations -- but with the film industry, not
toys. Much more money involved. Those pics are fair game according to
every rule of thumb we use -- TLC hasn't explicitly stated (to my knowledge)
rules against showing these pictures, and posting tiny scans without making
profit or harming the Lego trademark does not violate Copyright law as it is
understood in this case.
--
Paul Davidson
Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message
news:FMF1Ft.DyL@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
> > Todd,
> > Let's face it, if TLC were THAT worried about the pics in the retailer
> > catalog getting out there, they wouldn't release it so early.
>
> Oh, gee, yeah, that certainly justifies it. :-/
>
> First, the retailer catalog was never "released" (to consumers). Retailer
> catalogs are sent to *retailers* for *retailers* to use for their • businesses.
>
> Second, to the best of my knowledge, this year's retailer catalog hasn't • even
> been sent to retailers in the U.S. yet. I don't know how or where Huw's
> so-called "correspondent" got a copy.
>
> Third, I said it before but I'll say it again: LEGO employees at the Mall
> of America LEGO Imagination Center had said that they could *lose their
> jobs* for showing a retailer catalog to consumers before the products were
> out on shelves.
>
> Let's be a little responsible as a community for once, for crying out • loud.
> Are Suzanne and I the only ones who feel this way?
>
>
> > It's not rationalizing, it's flat out common sense. If TLC can't • imagine
> > that the pics WILL make it on the Web in this day and age, they are • truly
> > clueless about the net economy and are doomed.
>
> I completely agree with you on the second point, and I will add that • perhaps
> the reason that the retailer catalogs are so late this year is precisely
> because TLC -does- in fact realize this (what, do you think they're • complete
> idiots?) and delayed it on purpose because they've got some major press
> announcements to make first.
>
> You seem to be implying that the inevitability of leaks justifies the • leaks,
> and that our "rights" as rabid info-hungry fanatical fans are more • important
> than the LEGO Company's rights to announce their products when and how • they
> choose.
>
>
> > As others have noted, retailers in many countries have had these • catalogs
> > ON THE SHELVES for customers to view for many years. If TLC were so
> > worried about it, I'm sure they would have cracked down on this long • before.
>
> The only conclusion I can draw from that is that it's likely that TLC
> policies on the issue differ from country to country (i.e., from business
> unit to business unit) or that certain retailers have simply been
> irresponsible.
>
> It's a BEEEEEEG leap to go from that to "Oh Gee, tra la la la la, let's
> publish this on the Internet! Yippee!"
>
> Argh.
>
>
> > Again, until I specifically see something from TLC saying NOT to • distribute
> > the pics, I see nothing wrong with it whatsoever.
>
> You don't see anything wrong with defecating all over a company's • publicity
> and intellectual property rights regarding information which was, up until
> two days ago, a trade secret. Wonderful.
>
> Why am I here?
>
> --Todd
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