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Re: Fair use and allusion?
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Thu, 2 Sep 2004 21:32:02 GMT
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I happened to find an interesting cite. I think it's germane to the section of
the post below I haven't trimmed away

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:

> Moore is a jerk(3) because of his methods, (or if you like, he chooses to use
> his methods because he's a jerk, it matters not to me) but it's not the methods,
> rather his previous outcomes that lead me to my conclusion... he tends to be
> wrong about stuff so betting against him is a good way to bet. Some people won't
> look past that and will take it as revealed truth. Hence his alignment with any
> cause does it a disservice. (similar effects can be seen with people like Rush
> Limbaugh or Bill O'Reilly)
> 
> But further, if you have a scoundrel espousing a cause that reflects badly on
> the cause. That's not ad hominem, it's merely an observation.


This is an op-ed piece written by Ellen Goodman:

http://www.postwritersgroup.com/archives/good0629.htm

I found this para particularly relevant:

"Moore described his movie as an "op-ed piece," not a documentary. Well, I know
something about op-ed pieces. Over the long run, you don't get anywhere just
whacking your audience upside the head; you try to change the mind within it.
You don't just go for the gut. You try, gulp, reason."



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  Re: Fair use and allusion?
 
(...) Why are you telling US this? Why aren't you on the podium at the Republican convention? For a party that detests Moore, they are bigger liars and prevaricators (and True Liarnators) than Moore. :-) -->Bruce<-- (22 years ago, 3-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Fair use and allusion?
 
(...) Why? Is it ad hominem against short sellers to point out that when short interst is high is often a good time to buy stock? (1) It is not. It is merely an observation of a useful negative correlation. Same thing holds here, Moore is a liar and (...) (22 years ago, 21-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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