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Subject: 
Re: suspended Bricklink shops
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lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.market.brickshops
Date: 
Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:56:08 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Orion Pobursky wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jason Spears wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
   http://www.bricklink.com/tos.asp

Unless I’m seriously misreading Item 8 of the TOS correctly, then Bricklink has the right to revoke Lar’s membership without prior notice. That means that his membership can be yanked because he has too many letters in his name, because he parts his hair on the wrong side, or because he actively engaged in fraud. By accepting the terms of service, Lar accepted this possibility, and he has no stance to dispute it now. If he objects to the TOS, that’s his right of course, but he entered into the contract under the terms of the contract, and Bricklink is now enforcing those terms.

Just because BrickLink has the right to pull Lar’s membership, doesn’t mean BrickLink should. It’s my opinion that Admin shouldn’t have handled this situation this way and I’m letting him know that I think he should have handled it better. And that he still could change what has been done.

IMO BrickLink *should* pull the membership of any member who, in BrickLink’s opinion, violates the TOS

This is like saying that your driver license should be revoked if you violate even the most insignifcant traffic law or that you should be sentenced to life in prison for jaywalking.

The difference is that Lar accepted the terms of the TOS, and I commend him for stating this explicitly in his recent post. The TOS included the provision for summary action, and BrickLink has taken that action.

The revoking of a driver’s license for a minor infraction would constitute a change to the Driver’s License TOS, and no such change occurred in this case. However, if, in accepting your driver’s license, you acknowledged outright that it could be revoked for what you might perceive as minor infractions, then your example would be fitting. Ditto with jaywalking.

It’s not about what you or I think is a suitable consequence of a “minor” action; it’s about what the TOS stated at the time of agreement.

Dave!



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  Re: suspended Bricklink shops
 
(...) But the fact the TOS said what it did (summary action) isn't disputed, at least, I don't think. Did Dan have the right to ban Larry? Yes. Was it right for him to ban Larry, given the situation? No. Dan can do whatever the heck he wants with (...) (20 years ago, 24-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.market.brickshops, FTX)

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  Re: suspended Bricklink shops
 
(...) This is like saying that your driver license should be revoked if you violate even the most insignifcant traffic law or that you should be sentenced to life in prison for jaywalking. -Orion (20 years ago, 23-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.market.brickshops, FTX)

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