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Re: suspended Bricklink shops.
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 24 Aug 2004 02:52:01 GMT
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Mark P wrote:
> I have said countless times in the last few days in direct regards to this
> situation - I am not trying to tell anybody they can not have, or voice thier
> opinion. But when you base your opinion on false information that some people
> continue to dish out, or inclomplete and/or twisted facts - there is a problem
> in that *IMHO*. And also, some people are acting like thier opinion is what
> should be followed - agian, not the case.
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> I have no stake in this other than I do not like seeing Dan get bashed over
> false, incomplete or twisted facts as is being done in an overwhelmingly
> abudnace.
I would say that it would be more productive to ask Dan to state his side of the
story, rather than try to convince everyone else to shut up.
The only way we will get Dan's side of the story is if *Dan speaks up*. If he does
not, BL's reputation will suffer, as currently the data on the plate looks bad for
Dan.
> Dan is a great guy who works darn hard at trying to give us a great site like BL
Agreed.
> - and he does what he thinks needs to be done.
What is being argued was whether what he thought needed to be done was really such a
good idea, regardless of whether he could do it or not. We all agree he *can*.
> I can understand 100% why people may not
> agree with what he did based on what they know (or in some cases think they
> know) - but much of those feelings have been based on false, incomplete or
> twisted facts.
Every bit of data out there, at this moment, makes it seem like Dan PMSed and
capriciously banned Lar. And until Dan presents his side, what I've seen is all I
have to go on. Only Dan can change the data set I have to work with at this point.
> If you are going to be upset at somebody - at least make sure you
> know the story before you get upset.
How can we? You're basically telling everyone to shut up and take Dan's action as
is. How could we *possibly* ever know the story if we did that?
> So you may say - 'but thats what we are
> doing, asking questions'. Hey, thats great -- really it is I honestly applaud
> people who ARE trying to get the full story. But you need to undertand who does,
> and who does not have the full story.
Dan is the only one with the "full story" at this point, from what I can see. Not
even Lar has the full story, since he can't read Dan's mind.
Again, however, if/until Dan *speaks up*, we have to go with what we have for data,
and right now, it's not looking good for Dan. While some may see Lar's actions as
childish (I don't, his ToS rewording seemed fine to me. Unless Dan specifically noted
[which part] of Lar's parts description was the issue, and Lar ignored Dan's request,
which doesn't seem to be the case with the data currently at hand), many more seem to
be seeing Dan's reaction as childish/petty/capricious/malicious/PMSing/<insert a
similar word-vein here>.
Only Dan can possibly heal the damage done to BL at this point (note I am not
*demanding*, or even suggesting, what action would heal).
--
Tom Stangl
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| (...) Tom, do me a favor - copy this over, paste in in your word editor, print it up and post it above your monitor: I am not, and have not told anybody to shut up. I have not, and am not telling anybody to not have or voice their opinion. Can you (...) (20 years ago, 24-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Chris - I have said countless times in the last few days in direct regards to this situation - I am not trying to tell anybody they can not have, or voice thier opinion. But when you base your opinion on false information that some people (...) (20 years ago, 24-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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