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Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
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Date: 
Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:09:48 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Laswell wrote:
   If a state declares it illegal, it’s illegal.

Unless the state declares something illegal that it is unconstitutional to so declare. For example, if a particular state prevented the right of free assembly or free association, that would be unconstitutional. The supremes might not rule on it on the first try, until someone brought a properly construed test case that they could not decide more narrowly, but lets not confuse defacto with dejure.

  
   Wrong again. It is the judical branch’s right and responsibility to strike down any law which is unconstitutional.

Until such time as the Judiciary does strike it down,

Or a jury nullfies it.

   you can be prosecuted and sentanced under that law.

Defacto, yes. It still may be unconstitutional though.

A great example of this is currently in the offing, much to the disgust of Justice O’Connor. The ruling may undo thousands of sentences because the methods by which those sentences were imposed has been identified as unconstitutional. That means that the correction of those sentences must be implemented retroactively to the time they were imposed, and Justice O’Connor fears that this will place an unbearable burden on the court system.

So it’s not simply a matter of “now the practice is unconstitutional, so no one else gets sentenced that way.” Rather, it’s a case of “we have identified it as unconstitutional, so any sentences thus far imposed under the practice must be re-examined and potentially thrown out.”

Dave!



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(...) Unless the state declares something illegal that it is unconstitutional to so declare. For example, if a particular state prevented the right of free assembly or free association, that would be unconstitutional. The supremes might not rule on (...) (20 years ago, 28-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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