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Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
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Thu, 22 Jul 2004 23:48:53 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
   Sorry, why should he shut up about it?

Not getting arrested seems like a good start. Also, breaking the law as a means of trying to have it repealed tends to turn people against you on the grounds that you’re one of “those” criminals instead of “us” law-abiding citizens). Protest it all you want, as long as you don’t go around shouting about how you’re flouting it. The willingness to be arrested in civil protest is admirable, but you can lose the moral high ground when you actively disobey the laws you’re protesting. It worked for Rosa Parks, but it’s backfiring on this guy.

   If it’s against the law and the law is worth enforceing, enforce it. If it’s not worth enforcing, get rid of the law.

The law against polygamy is such a law. Not worth enforcing.

There are a lot of laws that aren’t worth enforcing depending on the situation. If you park 15” away from the curb, you’re breaking the law, but it’s not worth making prosecuting you over it. If you park 15’ away from the curb, however, the law is there so they can go after you. Very few police will pull you over for going 1mph over the speed limit, and they would get hopelessly bogged down if they stopped everyone who does, but you’ve got to set a limit somewhere or you’re left either having people rocketing past houses and schools at 90mph or having an abiguous definition of “too fast” where police can legally decide that it’s okay for one person to drive 50mph, but someone else could be breaking the law at 15mph.

It turns out that it’s not so much that polygamy isn’t worth enforcing, but that it’s very hard to prosecute if you’re quiet about it. Polygamous husbands only marry one wife on paper, so the only way to prove that they’re lying about all the “single” women they live with is to invade their privacy. They know it’s happening, but that’s not good enough in court. Anyways, if you want to read some disturbing side-effects of polygamy as it exists in Utah, take a peek at this. Try to explain how beating a 16-year-old girl because she refuses to become her own uncle’s 15th wife is an acceptable side-effect of polygamy. I mean, at least Islam restricts you to four wives and requires that you be able to financially support them and all of their children, instead of letting them end up with 50-100 person inbred families that only survive by having all the 2+ wives illegally file for welfare as “single-parent families”.



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  Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
 
(...) So, "don't ask, don't tell"? "Ya I smoked pot but I didn't inhale"? That sort of thing? Is that the moral creed you espouse? Further, was Rosa Parks right or wrong? How do you feel about civil disobedience as an instrument of change? How about (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
 
(...) Sorry, why should he shut up about it? If it's against the law and the law is worth enforceing, enforce it. If it's not worth enforcing, get rid of the law. The law against polygamy is such a law. Not worth enforcing. (20 years ago, 22-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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