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Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 22 Jul 2004 00:03:44 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mike Petrucelli wrote:
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Ok. So if your not using religon what is your justification for disallowing
them to enter into a contract.
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The fact that many states expressly forbid it. If it’s illegal, it’s illegal.
Anyone who feels that it’s unjust has the right to try to have the laws changed
to make it legal, but until they do...it’s still illegal.
I’m not sure exactly how it’s supposed to work for states which merely sidestep
the issue by not addressing in any form of law (including their respective
constitutions). One could argue that by not outlawing it, they are in effect
passing the decision down to local governments...and one could argue that by
firmly defining marriage they are making a de facto ruling that anything that
falls outside of that definition is not allowed.
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Seriously, you don’t see how this is a blatant case of religious
discrimination?!
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On the basis that there are Christians who strongly support both sides of this
argument, I don’t see how it can be. If a religious body can’t reach a
concensus on what stance they support, and just because a religious body does
reach a concensus on where they stand doesn’t mean that it suddenly becomes a
religious issue. If that were the case, every single legal issue brought before
Congress would be a religious issue, and they’d never be allowed to pass another
law (hmm, that might not actually be a bad thing...).
Besides, once you set a marriage ceremony in a church, with a member of the
clergy presiding, the ceremony becomes a private religious ceremony that’s
protected by the 1st Amendment. They can decide whether or not to perform it at
will. The only thing they can’t control is whether or not the marriage license
can be issued. If same-sex marriages are declared illegal by the state,
churches can keep performing them as much as they like, but they won’t mean
anything in a court of law. If they’re declared legal, churches can forbid to
preside over them as much as they like, but they can’t prevent them from
happening elsewhere.
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