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Re: Motive vs Action (was Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...)
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Date: 
Thu, 11 Nov 1999 19:00:14 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jasper Janssen writes:
On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:08:59 GMT, "James Brown"
<galliard@shades-of-night.com> wrote:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jasper Janssen writes:
On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:21:18 GMT, "James Brown"
<galliard@shades-of-night.com> wrote:

Neither you nor I are capable of judging motive.  We don't know why Fred
ran over Sam, or why Dave ran over Paul.  The only people who know that are
Fred and Dave, respectively.  All that we can do is judge the action.
Actions are observable, and judgable, intent is not. •   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Explain how "stepping on the accelerator to speed up" and "driving
along, without stopping" are the same. Discuss this further.
??
They aren't.  How is that relevant?

So please explain how they should be punished the same, since this is
what we were talking about, and there are observable differences in
actions.

I agree with you.  They shouldn't be punished the same, as their actions were
different.  BUT that isn't what was being talked about.  The discussion was
about whether judging by action or judging by intent was more fair.

From the original example, it clearly gives the motivations of the drivers as
the difference in their punishment.  I was arguing against that.

James
http://www.shades-of-night.com/lego/



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  Re: Motive vs Action (was Re: Blue Hopper Car Mania...)
 
(...) ?? They aren't. How is that relevant? James (URL) (25 years ago, 11-Nov-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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