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Re: We'll take in your poor, your homeless, your oppressed...
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Wed, 7 Jul 2004 15:22:47 GMT
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I find myself with complicated reactions to the situation that I haven't • yet
worked through.  Were they dodging slavery (the draft), then I would • assert that
they had the moral high ground and I would be supportive of their • desertion.
But I think it is much less proper to ditch your freely-taken contractual
obligations.  But should you feel obliged to perpetrate evil just because • of
such a contract?  But maybe you should have thought of that before signing • up.
But...

So, I guess my current emotional reaction is that I hope Canada grants the
asylum too.  But I think they should live in permanent exile.  (Unlike
Vietnam-era draft dodgers.)

Hmm, interesting question. I tend to feel that you should have known what
was possible before signing up. Anyone who is active now has had an
opportunity to bail out, or should have known before signing up that the US
has a habit of getting involved in "adventures" that don't hold the type of
high ground we held in WW II.

I'm not sure about permanent exile, unless they were fleeing a "just" war.

I think Canada should closely examine the reasons for seeking asylum. I
think many people have second thoughts when they realize they might actually
be shot at. I don't want to encourage people to take the military free ride
to education if they aren't willing to be shot at.

Frank



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  Re: We'll take in your poor, your homeless, your oppressed...
 
(...) Yeah. You know, this whole topic would be easier if one of two things would happen: either privatize the armed services -- eliminating any need to deal with this kind of situation any differently than any other contractual obligation, or (...) (20 years ago, 7-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: We'll take in your poor, your homeless, your oppressed...
 
(...) Some soldiers will always refuse to fight. I read the other day about paratroopers who refused to jump on D-Day. During the Vietnam War, many servicemen refused to fight; indeed, a few ships did not leave port. If soldiers have enlisted, I (...) (20 years ago, 8-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: We'll take in your poor, your homeless, your oppressed...
 
(...) Why? I find myself with complicated reactions to the situation that I haven't yet worked through. Were they dodging slavery (the draft), then I would assert that they had the moral high ground and I would be supportive of their desertion. But (...) (20 years ago, 7-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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