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Re: Gay Marriage
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Fri, 18 Jun 2004 22:16:30 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:
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Good point! As long as no one is being harmed, they should go for it. The
real, and obvious, answer is that marriage is a social institution that
should have no role in government whatsoever.
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My feeling is that it is the responsibility of government to ensure our
children are provided with the best possible opportunities in childhood. It
just so happens that children who are cared for by parents who are in a
stable relationship tend to get a good start in life. I think government
should take reasonable steps to maximise that stability of families. If that
means “promoting” marriage, I’m not going to cry about it!
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Hopefully you mean “best possible within economic reason.” Also, I’d like to
see how the “stable relationship”:”good start” metrics are compiled (you’re
reporting actual findings, right...not just opinion or impression?).
Further, since I know kids who did not have that environment who turned out
well, confounding variables are suggested. I’d suggest we ought to figure
out what those are and try to provide the things that can actually be
causally correlated with the positive outcome.
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These are my phrases and the terms I’ve used are subjective. I suppose I’m just
reflecting the view that most married ppl accept without really questioning it.
If you want to “upset the apple cart”, why not show me that I should question
it?
A quick search for “How Marriage Benefits Children” produced this:
http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IF03J02
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Promoting marriage certainly isn’t a travesty of our times and there are much
more important things going on, but I’m not going to ignore it when it comes
up in conversation just because of that. It is still disenfranchising to
those who choose non-married lifestyles.
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You mean like tax cuts for the rich disenfranchise the poor?
Scott A
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Why set up divisive constructs in
society at all?
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I have also to be convinced that MM or FF “parents” are not better than many
MF parents.
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Agreed.
Chris
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Message has 1 Reply:
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| (...) that was the best they could do. And I'll point out that I don't question the validity of any of the journals that they're referencing. Their main points were: (...) I think this is sort of putting the cart before the horse since it makes all (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Hopefully you mean "best possible within economic reason." Also, I'd like to see how the "stable relationship":"good start" metrics are compiled (you're reporting actual findings, right...not just opinion or impression?). Further, since I know (...) (20 years ago, 18-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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