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Re: "free" at the point of delivery
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Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:46:21 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote:
  
  
   I’m truly surprised you haven’t suggested one obvious solution. Why not let the government regulate the wages of those overpaid, barely working university professors? That’s sure to bring the cost of higher education down and it has a certain ring of fairness to it. ;)

I have no idea what you are talking about; I have never set foot in a US university. As an aside, I understand university “professors” in the US do not get paid out of term-time?

I never mentioned the US. Take your blinders off, or open your eyes. I know. It’s Monday.

2 Points then: 1. What experience do you have of Universities outside the USA? 2. What makes you think “professors” are “overpaid”?

Either you’re extremely sensitive about this, or you must’ve missed the winky. That was intended to be an absurd example to bring something you said earlier (and eventually snipped) into perspective. But if you wish, I suppose you could disclose your salary and really put me in my place. >;->

  
  
   Read what I said. It is only “free” at the point of delivery.

Exactly what I’m talking about. It should not be free at the point of delivery because that simply produces over-educated idealists with no concept of the real world. Find a way to make it affordable, not free.

I suppose I could say “read what I said”, but perhaps it wasn’t written well?

First you will have to show me that “free” education produces “idealists with no concept of the real world”. Please don’t recite an anecdote, I would prefer something more impartial.

No thanks. Since this appears to be a sensitive issue, I’ll concede instead. You win.

Have fun,

Don



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(...) I have the impression that in nations with a richer socialist tradition (like the UK), it is much more acceptable to accept from the public coffers the kind of aid that's being discussed here and in turn, to take seriously the responsibility (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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(...) 2 Points then: 1. What experience do you have of Universities outside the USA? 2. What makes you think "professors" are "overpaid"? (...) First you will have to show me that "free" education produces "idealists with no concept of the real (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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