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Re: Geez, its hard to stomach all of this
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Date: 
Sun, 20 Dec 1998 17:44:21 GMT
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Tim Courtney wrote:
However, you missed the point above.  Starr
found things like perjury and tampering with witnesses, not sex.

Didn't say he didn't. But you missed the point too. Clinton (slimeball
that he is) decided to hide his behaviour because if he hadn't he would
have lost the Jones lawsuit. I have no doubt he harassed her, none
whatever. My point, and I'll repeat it more carefully, is that I don't
think:

1. the law against sexual harassement, as currently written, is valid
(1)
2. the rulings that force people to testify about affairs, past AND
future (Lewinsky was a future affair), are valid.
3. Clinton has any moral courage. If he doesn't believe in that law, he
should come out and say so. If he does believe in that law, he should
have testified honestly.

Myself, I would NOT have testified honestly. When asked, I would have
said: "I'm not answering this question because I don't grant your basis
to ask it, and I am prepared to take the contempt charge, which I will
appeal." But that takes courage to do, and he doesn't have any.

See the distinction? This impeachment isn't about sex, it's about
behaviour to avoid having an unjust law apply to you. He's a coward, he
tries to wiggle out of stuff he doesn't agree with instead of taking a
stand.

Do you mean no paint on elements, like minifig torso markings, decorated
elements, etc.  Or figures like www.sweet-peas.com?1

No paint or markings unless TLG put them there.

3 - >>>>>>   -Lar <Darwin><    :-)

That's another thing that's hard for me to stomach.  There's a debate, but it
should be kept to email. :)

What?? you find it hard to stomach that someone rejects the creationist
rejection of causality? Tell me more. Or was that not what you meant?

1 - Sexual harrassement is a BAD THING, and we should have something in
place that helps people defend against abuse of power by government
officials. However, I suspect (2) that if we looked carefully at the
common-law body we had in place in 1900, we could find what we need
instead of using this horribly flawed law we have now.

2 - This is congruent to my pollution stance.

--
Larry Pieniazek    http://my.voyager.net/lar
For me: No voyager e-mail please. All snail-mail to Ada, please.
- Posting Binaries to RTL causes flamage... Don't do it, please.
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  More Clinton (was Re: Geez, its hard to stomach all of this)
 
(...) Ok, I see now. (...) How is the sexual harassment law written? Why would Clinton's not 'believing' in that law make a difference? I can say I don't believe a wall is there and run in its direction and fall down and get a concussion. Just (...) (26 years ago, 21-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Geez, its hard to stomach all of this
 
Larry Pieniazek wrote in message <367D3775.E8CC6DCC@c...AM.com>... (...) True very true, ecspeccialy in California (...) Lewinksy I thought happened at the smae time he testified (...) Clinton has moral courage, I mean who could stand up to 250 (...) (26 years ago, 23-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Geez, its hard to stomach all of this
 
(...) That's my prediction as well. However, you missed the point above. Starr found things like perjury and tampering with witnesses, not sex. I wish he found more of the stuff that is mentioned in Unlimited Access - a book by a former FBI security (...) (26 years ago, 20-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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