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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
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But then, I had my Albedo comics authenticated and they went for several
hundred dollars, so I suppose it’s all about money. :-)
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What kind of tulip madness was this? Are we talking “Samurai Bunny” comics?
Where, when, and why? Do they maintain this absurd value?
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Usagi Yojimbo. To address stuff you go into below regarding eBay, I noted that
CGC graded comics went for considerably more than those that weren’t graded,
though the cost of grading meant you had to have a relatively expensive comic in
the first place, and unless it is really, really old, it probably needs to be in
pretty good shape to begin with. Having the Albedos professionally graded (over
a service like eBay, that gives the bidder a lot of confidence) and being able
to say that I had the highest graded issue in existence kinda drove up the
price, far beyond what Overstreet said they were worth. As to Albedo itself,
the original run was like 2000 copies, and most of that in SoCal, since they
published out of Pasadena.
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One of my better killings in comics -- of stuff with which I was actually
willing to part -- was for the Englehart/Rogers Batman “Detective Comics”
run. I had them all in duplicates, and a few oddities besides. The first
Batman movie had just come out and each issue was valued at around $50-75
each. This was in and around Los Angeles, so that might figure into it.
Years later in Chicago, the same comics were going for mere dollars.
Gee look at this listing online:
http://newkadia.safeshopper.com/1080/11124.htm?282 That one’s supposed to
be THEE big deal. Still not bad up from $0.35, but it has not returned to the
prices I fetched for them.
Here’s the real killer of value -- ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2199211137&category=33808
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2199211130
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2199211121
Not the same issue, but the issues around it. No takers so far, not for any
of them...
All this collector stuff is crap -- esp. in comics. Overstreet makes for good
if rough toilet paper. Ebay has made everything collectable available!
There is no true scarcity - there is a near frictionless method to connect
the buyer tot he seller -- why pay a premium price?
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The real problem was the Great Comic Collector Crash, when some publishers
printed virtually nothing but “1st edition collectors special editions”.
Everyone got disgusted at what was essentially a speculator’s scam, and prices
imploded. Hasn’t really recovered.
EBAy is both good and bad. It’s a buyers market.
I agree with your assessment on Overstreet.
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Your assistant printed Ansel Adams prints approach scarcity, but then perhaps
only to you. This reminds me of my copies of Silver Surfer #1, and other
related stuff like Fantastic Four #s 48-50.
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The Ansel Adams prints are still available (online, in fact, from the Ansel
Adams Gallery). Last I saw they were going for $175, though I got mine for
$50-$75 (I thinned my collection out, too, and got $135-$150 per print on eBay).
My mom made me throw this away, of course. The earliest FF I had to throw away
was #13, Spiderman #7, Avengers #1, X-Men #1.
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Ooooohhh, aaaaaaaaaaahhh...
Big deal. It’s an available comic in a mylar. This oft reprinted story is
also available in numerous other ways. What’s the big deal? I’d guess most
people might want a good reading copy -- FF #s 48-50 are seriously GOOD
comics to read, but I am not seeing the mylar container appeal. Kirby at his
best if you are actually going to crack open the mylar.
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That’s what I don’t get about the CGC value. Yes, you know the quality of the
comic you are buying, but it is in a sealed container. It’s like leaving Lego
in a box.
Why reprints don’t destroy the value of older comics, I don’t know. I’m usually
quite content to keep the reprint and sell the original.
-->Bruce<--
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