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Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
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Tue, 21 Oct 2003 15:29:20 GMT
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The problem with John and Justin’s thinking here is that they want to be allowed to show that different kinds of Xtianity may exist and that some of these factions of Xtianity are not what they would really consider “properly” Xtian in terms of John or Justin’s personal views. In a way, I don’t have a problem with that -- they are questioning the basis upon which those factions consider themselves representative of Xtianity. That would be in the way of a disgreement between factions of Xtianity -- much like has existed in Ireland for too long a time between the Catholics and the Protestants. It’s a pity that Xtian groups cannot be more tolerant of one another’s views, but there it is. From the outside we may see different Xtian groups as being very alike, from within they argue passionately about their differences.

Again, more proof that organized religions are hardly the philosophical basis for tolerance -- note how they fight amongst themselves!

My problem with John’s selective reasoning is that he very specifically selects himself out of association with Xtian activity and history that he finds objectionable. At the same time, he doesn’t allow that there may exist Muslims that would do the same thing as regards certain factions within Islam and as regards certain aspects of their own Islamic history. In other words, he demands the right to distance himself from certain extreme Xtian activities and history while insisting that Muslims can and must all be lumped together!

That which is barely good enough for Xtian John Neal is too good for your average Muslim!

Outrageous!

Again, I call attention to the dictionary definition of a bigot: “One who is strongly partial to one’s own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.” -- Excerpted from The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition Copyright © 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Etc, Etc, Etc...

I’d have to say that John was more than “strongly partial” to his own views -- I’d have to say that he was irrationally partial to his own views.

-- Hop-Frog



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(...) I caution that the use of this type of yardstick is called the "no true Scotsman" fallacy, or the fallacy of the receding target. Whatever our modern sensibilities may be, the Inquisition was *the essence* of Christianity in its day, so it's (...) (21 years ago, 21-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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