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Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
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Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:16:03 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:

   I think from your equivocation of “Christianity” with “Christians”. Christianity as a religion doesn’t breed violence and death. Wackos calling themselves “Christians” might. There is a distinction there.

I caution that the use of this type of yardstick is called the “no true Scotsman” fallacy, or the fallacy of the receding target.

Whatever our modern sensibilities may be, the Inquisition was *the essence* of Christianity in its day, so it’s certainly appropriate to hold Christianity responsible for the atrocities committed at that time. And it’s no good to say “but that was 500 years ago,” because the New Testament was 2000 years ago, and you still seem to accept that book as valid Christianity. You can’t simply cherry-pick your Christians and omit the rest. That’s the fallacy of selective reasoning.

Dave!



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  Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
 
The problem with John and Justin's thinking here is that they want to be allowed to show that different kinds of Xtianity may exist and that some of these factions of Xtianity are not what they would really consider "properly" Xtian in terms of John (...) (21 years ago, 21-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
  Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
 
(...) Vietnam (and a whole bunch of other war/police actions) that America got involved in for selfish reasons would be a similar situation--we wish to distance ourselves from the wrongdoings of our ancestors, or even the wrongs we've done (...) (21 years ago, 21-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
 
(...) I think from your equivocation of "Christianity" with "Christians". Christianity as a religion doesn't breed violence and death. Wackos calling themselves "Christians" might. There is a distinction there. (...) This is what worries me: (URL) (...) (21 years ago, 21-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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